As I sit here, we are all guilty!

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Luc

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Let's all look at our past...
Have we breach some secrets or important information to someone?
Have we breach the privacy act with a friend, customer, spouse etc?

I am guilty of that offense.
I am be surprise to see not too many of us can say we are not guilty.
Sometime we say things in gossip...other time it may be to help someone so they don't get screwed by a mis-fortune.

As much as we will tell each other we won't be doing that again, in our life time, we will probably do it again.
It is like speeding, we get a tickets and voes of not to speed again and then bam, we are at it again. We all know it is illegal but still do it.

What the funeral director said to Jon and Twila, may not be a breach of privacy. It may have been his own comments and he ask Jon no to repeat it, just like we have done in the past.

Comments and our views have been made on important information and we are all guilty to do it.

Now we also in the heat of the moment do things we think is the correct answer to a situation. We are all guilty to stand our grounds on the principal of things. I know that I have done that and several days later think of the consequence of my action or the principal of things. Sometime we have to be leaders in showing the world even if we think we are right, the right thing to do. We can't beat Jon and Twila for what they think is right, however we can be supportive in listening on their experience so we can learn from it.

We should not be taking sides as there is always 3 side to a story. We loose the reasoning or the meaning around e-mails conversation when we only read about it on here. I look at John and twila as a vent and I am sure they will do what is right for them.

Luc
 
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Luc, while I appreciate what you are saying, just because "everyone" has done it, doesn't make it right.

Ethics are few and far between these days... the Funeral Director, and anyone else who breaches that kind of trust is wrong. There are no shades of gray.

V
 
I guess I don't quite get that Vic. What kind of "trust" did this family put in him by "allowing" him to donate his services? Did they have a confidentiality agreement? Did he agree with them that no one would know?

He didn't ask me not to tell anyone - his statement was that he wasn't telling others this, and he didn't really do it for publicity, but other reasons (spiritual bennies perhaps). I don't feel he breached any kind of trust - he didn't call me - I called him and asked for his take on what I should do - he said if they dispute the charge - dispute the dispute.

And, whether we like it or not, most of the things we donate are FOR publicity and good PR, (even tho I see this as a BIT different of situation). This whole city knows that the family was getting all kinds of freebies. Should have Extreme Makeover have kept their donation anonymous? (They sent a big $250 bouquet, biggest one there, which I personally placed Front and Center with their name on the banner). They got lots of "freebies" out of this little girl's illness and death - and I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find out who gave what, if I were so inclined. (we've already heard a bunch but I'm not wishing to besmirch them)

We've donated flowers to services of indigent people before, once a homeless guy here was murdered - we made an arrangement in a shopping cart and put a banner on it that said With Deepest Sympathy from Expressions In Bloom. They were the only flowers there.

Shameless? Unethical?

I dunno - opinions vary
 
I guess I don't quite get that Vic. What kind of "trust" did this family put in him by "allowing" him to donate his services? Did they have a confidentiality agreement? Did he agree with them that no one would know?
I dunno - opinions vary

I don't know what Victoria is griping aout here either...........nothing unethical here that I can see.
 
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I'm not "griping" about anything, I am merely expressing my opinion, which stands.

By Luc's thinking, just because everyone has done it it's ok. My mother, and I'm sure many others, used to say, "if (insert name here) jumped off a cliff would you?".

Jon, I have huge respect for you, but on this we differ. I don't believe donating services gives anyone the right to treat the person any less than I would like to be treated.

By the way, I'm a person who donates privately.

V
 
- his statement was that he wasn't telling others this, and he didn't really do it for publicity, but other reasons (spiritual bennies perhaps).
In my experience, when some one says "I'm only telling you this"...that it's a clear sign that they'll tell anyone that will listen....
 
That's my take as well... as I said in the other thread on this subject.

Also, alot is made about the "free" house these people received. To my way of thinking, it was far from free... the circumstances under which they were chosen must have indicated a difficult life, and of course a child dying from cancer can hardly be considered "free". Seems to me the cost was high.

V
 
Vic,
I am not saying it is right or wrong.I am just making a point that we have all have done it or will do it at times.
I value everyone opinion on this subject...and in 2 more days in the corner and when you realize you are wrong you can come back to flower chat.....

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Luc
 
You're right, Luc. We've all made mistakes, and we hopefully learn from them. Or since we have FC, we can learn from each other.
 
Vic,
I am not saying it is right or wrong.I am just making a point that we have all have done it or will do it at times.
I value everyone opinion on this subject...and in 2 more days in the corner and when you realize you are wrong you can come back to flower chat.....

Hugs
Luc

Nobody puts 'Vic' in a corner... ;)

Love you too.

V, Victoria, Viki, Toria, Vic (those are all the derivations of my name that I answer to).
 
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