Attorney's Advice on Checks/Credit Cards

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clay

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ATTORNEY'S ADVICE -- NO CHARGE
Read this and make a copy for your files in case you need to refer to it someday. Maybe we should all take some of his advice!

A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his company.

1. The next time you order checks have only your initials (instead of first name) and last name put on them. If someone takes your checkbook, they will not k now if you sign your checks with just your initials or your first name, but your bank will know how you sign your checks.

2. Do not sign the back of your credit cards. Instead, put "PHOTO ID REQUIRED".

3 When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT put the complete account number on the "For" line. Instead, just put the last four numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of the number, and anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check processing channels won't have access to it.

4. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you have a P.O. Box, use that instead of your home address. If you do not have a P.O. Box, use your work address. Never have your SS# printed on your checks.(DUH!) You can add it if it is necessary. But if you have it printed, anyone can get it.

5. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine. Do both sides of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your wallet and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a photocopy of my passport when travel either here or abroad. We've all heard horror stories about fraud that's committed on us in stealing a name, address, Social Security number, credit cards.

Unfortunately I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my wallet was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieve(s) ordered an expensive monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to change my driving record information online, and more. But here's some critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or someone you know:

1. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. But the key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know whom to call. Keep those where you can find them.

2. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where your credit cards, etc., were stolen. This proves to credit providers you were diligent, and this is a first step toward an investigation (if there ever is one) .

But here's what is perhaps most important of all: (I never even thought to do this.)

3. Call the 3 national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a fraud alert on your name and Social Security number. I had never heard of doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for credit was made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company that checks your credit knows your information was stolen, and they have to contact you by phone to authorize new credit.

By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft, all the damage had been done. There are records of all the credit checks initiated by the thieves' purchases, none of which I knew about before placing the alert. Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the thieves threw my wallet away. This weekend (someone turned it in).
It seems to have stopped them dead in their tracks.

Now, here are the numbers you always need to contact about your wallet, etc., has been stolen:
1.) Equifax: 1-800-525-6285
2.) Experian (formerly TRW): 1-888-397-3742
3.) Trans Union: 1-800-680-7289
4.) Social Security Administration (fraud line): 1-800-269-0271
 
Great advice.
2. Do not sign the back of your credit cards. Instead, put "PHOTO ID REQUIRED".
My hubby already does this, and in nine years, I can count on one hand the amount of clerks who have ever paid any mind to it. We recently gave a waitress at Chili's an extra $$ tip for asking him for it (even though the food was not the best, her attentiveness needed to be rewarded!).
tracy
 
ATTORNEY'S ADVICE -- NO CHARGE
Read this and make a copy for your files in case you need to refer to it someday. Maybe we should all take some of his advice!

A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his company.

1. The next time you order checks have only your initials (instead of first name) and last name put on them. If someone takes your checkbook, they will not k now if you sign your checks with just your initials or your first name, but your bank will know how you sign your checks.

2. Do not sign the back of your credit cards. Instead, put "PHOTO ID REQUIRED".

3 When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT put the complete account number on the "For" line. Instead, just put the last four numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of the number, and anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check processing channels won't have access to it.

4. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you have a P.O. Box, use that instead of your home address. If you do not have a P.O. Box, use your work address. Never have your SS# printed on your checks.(DUH!) You can add it if it is necessary. But if you have it printed, anyone can get it.

5. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine. Do both sides of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your wallet and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a photocopy of my passport when travel either here or abroad. We've all heard horror stories about fraud that's committed on us in stealing a name, address, Social Security number, credit cards.

Unfortunately I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my wallet was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieve(s) ordered an expensive monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to change my driving record information online, and more. But here's some critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or someone you know:

1. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. But the key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know whom to call. Keep those where you can find them.

2. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where your credit cards, etc., were stolen. This proves to credit providers you were diligent, and this is a first step toward an investigation (if there ever is one) .

But here's what is perhaps most important of all: (I never even thought to do this.)

3. Call the 3 national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a fraud alert on your name and Social Security number. I had never heard of doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for credit was made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company that checks your credit knows your information was stolen, and they have to contact you by phone to authorize new credit.

By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft, all the damage had been done. There are records of all the credit checks initiated by the thieves' purchases, none of which I knew about before placing the alert. Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the thieves threw my wallet away. This weekend (someone turned it in).
It seems to have stopped them dead in their tracks.

Now, here are the numbers you always need to contact about your wallet, etc., has been stolen:
1.) Equifax: 1-800-525-6285
2.) Experian (formerly TRW): 1-888-397-3742
3.) Trans Union: 1-800-680-7289
4.) Social Security Administration (fraud line): 1-800-269-0271
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This information helped us a couple of years ago when my daughter's purse was stolen from her car. We had received and followed the advice in the email concerning making copies of wallet contents and concerning keeping a copy of the email with those phone numbers. Although we are not certain how many hours had passed between the break in and its discovery, we immediately contacted all of the cc companies and the other 4 phone numbers listed at the bottom of the message. Nothing was ever charged on our credit cards, and one of the thieves was captured when she tried to use one of Kellye's checks to buy $105 of pizzas but refused to show ID. The manager called the phone # on the check in question (our home phone number) to verify that Kellye would be ordering the pizzas. When I explained about the break in and theft, he and his staff managed to stall the customer until the police arrived and arrested her. Kellye and I both had to contact Equifax, etc. because she had one of my credit cards, and her medical insurance card was in her wallet. Since she was a student at the time, she was still covered by my insurance, and the ID contained my SS#.

Kellye moved into her own place during the next year, and she bought a car. We had to go through a bit of inconvenience because of the fraud alerts (buying furniture, etc,), but we didn't care because we knew that it was protection for us.

Good and timely advice, Clay.
 
Great advice!
But remember, cards are not considered valid unless they are signed. Just put See ID first and then sign the card.

http://usa.visa.com/business/accepting_visa/ops_risk_management/card_present.html?it=Search#anchor_5

Wow, I learned something today. Visa encourages fraud via poor policy. It doesn't matter to me as I don't have a CC. It doesn't matter to the card holder because they are only liable for the first $50 (I think that's the number). So, who cares? The merchant should because they get the chargeback. We ask for ID and CCV's every time. Don't have it with you? There is an ATM in the bar next door.
 
Small world! We're located next to a wine shop! (Please forgive the thread jump.)
 
Very Timely Advice Clay.....

our credit card was "compromised" a week ago last, during our last minute buying spree for our daughter's wedding, and interestingly enough, the Canadian office of MBNA Mastercard called us DIRECTLY, on our cell phone, (they have 4 different numbers to reach us) to let us know, and that they had already "locked down" the cc, reported the incident to the credit granting authorities, and processed a new card/new number authorization, and we receieved our new cards the following day by express courier.
Made me think of ALL the things your post advises, and now, we are doing exactly just that!~!
Thanks.....
 
I've never signed a credit card in my life - and think I can count on two hands the number of times anyone has even noticed and asked for ID.
 
Everone thinks that banks checks signatures on checks that come in but they don't. At least not in this area. I was told that by someone that works at a bank. Also, my stepson went with him mom to a Chinese restaurant once and when the bill came he asked if he could write out the check. He signed it Foo Man Choo or such and not only did the resturant except it, the bank cleared it with no problem.

I too have "See ID" on the backs of my credit cards and I RARELY get asked for any identification. Most folks just swipe it and hand it back to me.

At our store, we compare signatures and if there isn't one on the card, we ask for another id because as was mentioned, we are the ones that will be out the $$ if the card is stolen. The phone orders are a bit more worriesome.

Wanda
 
Maybe it comes from dealing with the same bank for years, but we've been called about 2 checks. One was when I asked my niece to make out and sign a check because I was busy and believed that the bank didn't notice such things anyway. The other was because the check was for a large amount of money, and the bank knew that I didn't often write checks that large. The bank may have called us because the checks were actually being cashed rather than being deposited, and the teller, all of whom know me well, instantly recognised that one check was not signed by me and the other was fairly large for the man to be cashing.
 
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