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I'm in the UK, so I hope you don't mind me posting in this section.

I have read through many posts now and I love the abundant use of floristry in the States for all occassions; especially at funerals. In the UK it tends to be 'family flowers only' which equates to one double-ended coffin spray and nothing else. In America you have easles, and vases and all kinds of things.

You have many different names and styles and I was wondering if you would each contribute to this thread to help me understand this better!

For example; you have funeral piece refered to as 'hedge'...what is that?! If it has an English equivalent that you know of, pop it in and I'll understand all the quicker!

Looking forward to learning!
 
the best way to understand the terminology is to purchage a guide put out by AIFD to the terms that we use.

A hedge design is too hard for me to explain, maybe someone else can do it.
But I can post a pic later. I had to do a hedge design for Wilton Hardy at NMSF convention and I got a picture.
There might be one in my album, I'll go look and let you know.


Yep there's 2 there. It's in my "celebrities, accomplishments.....etc" album
It's the pic with Wilton and the pink umbrella. so there you go.



ok, now here's a pic.
 

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The problem in understanding isn't just for the Brits. In the US, different regions use the same names for designs that mean different styles depending on which part you come from. For example: "Spray"....I always call the other florist (incoming orders), to find out what they want...Do they want an "Easel arrangement" or a "Fan Shaped Arrangement" or a "Large Bouquet".

Then there are some arrangements that are very popular in areas that I have absolutely no idea what it is. A while back I was asked to make a "Jesus Called" Spray. I had no idea what it was, but thanks to my FlowerChat friends I was able to understand and make my own version of it.

http://www.flowerchat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2926&d=1195721060

We are lucky over here to be able to do so many Sympathy Tributes. That is what I truly love about being a Florist. I just love being able to do the final "Tribute" for those special people. I consider it an honor and I share those feelings with the family as I do the consultation.

Good luck in your quest. I have the AIFD terminology book too. It is very helpful, but if the sender doesn't use the correct term or is thinking something different.....well you get it.
 
Ok......To try and describe a HEDGE design.

A hedge design uses vertical parallel placements of flowers and materials in straight horizontal rows......It is typically a longer design that it is tall.

It is usually a one-sided style in it's true form.

For illustration: THe flower complement is Snapdragons, Roses, Carnations, and Daisies.


You begin with your tallest material ..... placed beside each other in a horizontal row....but the stems are placed vertically into the foam......all the stems are cut to the same height......then in front of that you place your next tallest material.....again all stems cut to same height and placed in a row.....and you continue getting shorter and shorter rows until the last row sits at the edge of the container.

You can of course.....use branches, twigs, and can get very creative with the design. Think of it as creating a series of hedges ... one in front of the other...in the garden......for those who do landscaping or are familiar with landscaping terms, that will help as a visual
 
How very intresting, I was always led to believe that flowers were a large part of the European lifestyle. I was expecting fresh flowers in everyone's home and for sell everywhere. How about cage designs, bridges, vegative arrangements and watergardens. You have a wonderful journey you have ahead of you, and I can see that your intrest in learning will take you there.
P. Bird
 
I must say that while Family Flowers only or " in lieu of flowers" is quite popular, there are still a lot of funerals that do let everyone buy tributes in the UK. Particularly in poorer areas i have found.
 
Jake, did you not cover these designs in your level three. We did them in our level 2 and 3, they look like paralell designs to me?? I am not sure they are very popular though in commercial floristry over here though.
 
http://www.winstonflowers.com/significantmoments/inmemoriam.aspx

This is more what would be called a hedge design, it is quite different than the parrallel design that shannon was speaking of. I have never heard of those being considered hedge designs, but I am not all knowing and have never laid eyes on an AIFD book....The picture above is a newish style, new to the aspect of being shown, may have been in existance for eons for all I know...


Sorry the link brings you to the whole page...The arrangement is the rose hedge....
 
I think all florists should have the AIFD book of terms. Even with all I have experienced, I still use it every once in a while to update me on a floral term.

Carol Bice
 
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Palms said:
Jake, did you not cover these designs in your level three. We did them in our level 2 and 3, they look like paralell designs to me?? I am not sure they are very popular though in commercial floristry over here though.
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Yes I have covered European Definitions, but not American. I am always very careful to ensure I use the correct term for the design I have completed or about to make.

A true parallel has a minimum of 70% of the stems in parallel fashion, and over here we often confuse it with Vegetative. Hedge is a completely new term to me and not one that exists in the SoF handbook.

Thanks for explaining it to me everyone!

Oh and, yes! We do have a lot of flowers over here, but a lot of people buy them from the supermarket and plonk them in a vase at home; not very creative. In my area, people only go to the florist for special occasions, or when they aren't able to make what they want.
 
so would you say shannons was our version of a paralell, its been that long since i made either a veg or a paralell design...
 
oh come on Lori, they're totally a hedge design.
I guess if we wanted to get technical, we could call them "parallel, hedge design done in groupings"
but a hedge design none the less.

I have another one in my albums too. Done with river cane and bark wire that is also a hedge design.

I've also done hedge design in cubes.
 
This is intriguing me now, lori i cant seem to find the rose thing on that site. BTW i am just trying to see if your version of a hedge design is something that we may do but call it different, rather than a completely new design. I am not contridicting (sp) anyone.:eek:face
 
FTR,

I saw Lynne Moss at a TF design show in ABQ last year...
She totally did a hedge design in a cube and all the flowers were not up at the top.

I always say there's more than one way to ....sorry cat lovers...."skin a cat"

Sometimes I think we all, INCLUDING ME, learn something one way and that's gospel, super hard to think that it can be done differently.

And I'm not defending my design either. And I'm not offended either Lori, so I hope this isn't coming off as "snippy" because it's not meant to.

Also, it's also like what I call a roundy moundy some people call a "colonial" design. AKA Martha mound, etc, etc.....

Palms scroll through the pics, it's a white rose design. all the roses are at the top.
 
shannonlovesflowers said:
oh come on Lori, they're totally a hedge design.
I guess if we wanted to get technical, we could call them "parallel, hedge design done in groupings"
but a hedge design none the less.

I have another one in my albums too. Done with river cane and bark wire that is also a hedge design.

I've also done hedge design in cubes.
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If you say they call those hedge designs, I believe you...I have just never heard anything like that called a hedge....I said I could be wrong, I am not all knowing on these matters....and the hedge term is realatively new to me...
 
shannonlovesflowers said:
oh come on Lori, they're totally a hedge design.
I guess if we wanted to get technical, we could call them "parallel, hedge design done in groupings"
but a hedge design none the less.

I have another one in my albums too. Done with river cane and bark wire that is also a hedge design.

I've also done hedge design in cubes.
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I always thought a hedge design was usually made of one type of flower and very uniform, like a hedge with either a green background or twigs....

The mixed nature of the arrangements shown to me would fit more with parralel design...not really hedge...no offense taken...I know you by now to know you just get excited...
 
Shannon i certainly was not saying that your design was not a "hedge" design, i have no idea what a hedge design is, hence me joining in with jake and asking. Not sure what your last post was about, was it to prove that it was a hedge design? The design that you shown is more commonly known in the uk as a paralell design and i have never heard the term hedge used so that is why i called it that.

Has anyone else any pics to compare?
 
No problem Lori and Palms...

It is a parallel, but it also is a hedge. that's all I'm saying.

Hedge is a fairly new term.
 
Lori - Both You and Shannon are right. In the basic hedge or hedgerow style of design, each row of materials is identical.....like a row of snapdragons, then a row of carnations, then a row of roses, then a row of lilies, and so on.....with each row being placed in front of the last row and each row getting shorter in height.

The designs that Shannon showed are indeed hedgerow style.....just some creative license was used is all.
 
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