Design - Interested to hear your comments on this one.

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I got this through a Twitter tweet, and was hoping to hear the critique of the design, flower content, product quality and the arrangement techniques.

Is it a cookie cutter or an everyday design?

Thanks!

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that vase is a teleflora vase. And I think the vase is u-g-l-y.

The arrangement isn't Horrible. Not great, but not horrible by any means.

Could use a little tightening/cleaning up, and I don't care for the giant void in the middle of the arrangement. also, it could benefit from some acessory flowers as well.
 
Thanks.
I guess here is what this non-designer (Me) would have thought.

- Vase is ugly and should go to a funeral.
- Balance is off, that stargazer is way too big for the size of the vase.
- Too much green left on the stems (They are likely in the water)
- Agree, the hole in the middle is too big fillers would help
- Roses look very soft at the bottom, will die tomorrow or the next day, and will have to be pulled out LONG before those lillies are done.

How'd I do? Stick to my day job? lol

The recipient seems to love them enough to Tweet them! ;)
 
I agree w/what Shannon said. It's ok. I don't hate the vase though. I don't use ones like that but it goes well enough with the flowers I guess. I bet it looks nicer in person than in the photo. Something that looks fine in person can look like asss in a pic.
 
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Not the worst that I've seen, but the balance is thrown off by that large stargazer. From the angle of the photo, the vase appears to be out of proportion with the size of the flowers. Perhaps the Twitter-er likes pink.
 
well some roses open and then hold their shape for quite a while. Just 'cause it'sopen doesn't mean it bad, or going bad.

the vase was a TF mother's day vase.
 
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Agreeing with Shannon....The vase is ugly, I still have 6 of those that I am working off and somehow have many problems in where to send them....but that is my issue, most customers like them...

The gazer is a bit big, roses are fine, they will hold, those particular spray roses blow open and hold for 5-6 days, also the hot pink ones hold well and the large pink ones, I have never seen tight, but last very well...The amount of greens is a bit much and this arrangement would have benefited from a bit of monte or caspia just to fill in....

This is an everyday average arrangement that most customers appreciat and will pay 50 bucks for...The woman loves it simply because her husband picked up the phone and ordered it, maybe he remebered that gazers are her favorite, maybe they are the clors of their wedding flowers...maybe she loves the smell, maybe she just likes the other girls in the office telling her what a nice husband she has...These are things that are important to recipients...
 
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Agree with MJ (Master J, not Michael Jackson) I think the person in the office had that vase in the breakroom and someone got some flowers at the grocery store and plopped them in. Right? I mean, its not an arrangement per say.
 
Maybe the photographer didn't know the front of the arrangement from the back.. cuz it looks as though this is a "back side view" pic??? Maybe??
 
Is it a cookie cutter or an everyday design?

What the hell does that mean? Is cookie cutter a dirty word?

I don't sell and people don't buy cookie cutters because they're ugly or substandard migo.....lol
 
What the hell does that mean? Is cookie cutter a dirty word?

I don't sell and people don't buy cookie cutters because they're ugly or substandard migo.....lol
Relax amigo. All I meant, is,

"Is this a TFTD800 standard design, or something that someone created on the fly"
 
My thought is be thankful someone cared enough tweet thing so it has gotton attention so that someone will call you now, also it did get yours to post, sometimes I don't get it, we want folks to bye flowers then when they put up they got them then this, Heavens I seen worse in my lifetime, also I hate to say this, the trend for this year is pearlized enamal vases, or anything , even jewlery, from the things that I saw last week, and that of green , pearl, purple, gold and silver, so it is what it is,
 
Like the others, I have seen worse, but rather than say the bad.......I see pretty flowers, sitting on a desk, belonging to someone, who has brightened the day by having these beautiful fragrant gems of nature near them.

Is it a professional looking design? - No
Does the amateurish placement of flowers detract from the enjoyment? - Possibly
Is someone enjoying the beauty of flowers? - Emphatically yes.

This example is great Duane - it shows clearly how flowers can look when not properly arranged and designed to show the flowers off to their best advantage.

Even the 'cookie cutters' espoused by certain people on FC can look beautiful in the hands of a trained designer, they can also look ugly in the hands of an amateur.
 
Like the others, I have seen worse, but rather than say the bad.......I see pretty flowers, sitting on a desk, belonging to someone, who has brightened the day by having these beautiful fragrant gems of nature near them.

Is it a professional looking design? - No
Does the amateurish placement of flowers detract from the enjoyment? - Possibly
Is someone enjoying the beauty of flowers? - Emphatically yes.

This example is great Duane - it shows clearly how flowers can look when not properly arranged and designed to show the flowers off to their best advantage.

Even the 'cookie cutters' espoused by certain people on FC can look beautiful in the hands of a trained designer, they can also look ugly in the hands of an amateur.


But the recipient sees nothing wrong with them at all, just we the floral community do....all she sees is beautiful flowers sent by her adoring husband and is happy about them....amateur or not this florist did their job and will probably be used again by the sender...even if it was a barely passing grade in our opinion..
 
It looks nice but it does not look designed.

Over here this would not be something a florist would send out as we dont design generally out of a vase like that. Most flowers are tied dutch style and then placed in the vase if this makes sense. :)
 
Well, we agree that the arrangement is not as professionally done as it should have been. We also agree that it seems to be pleasing to the recipient.

This tells me that things are as it says in my signature. " It is NOT about the flowers, NOT about the florist, It IS all about meeting and exceeding the needs of the customer" -- and it is the skills I have learned, the credentials I have gained, that allow me to do that.
 
My personal final take on this, is that I agree with Master J. Its an old vase and Grocery Store flowers.

I was hoping for more responses here, but I thought this might be enough to prove a small point in perception and what is most relevant to the industry as a whole. This post was not really meant to be about design. With all the accreditation talk going on, I just wanted to look at the industry from the customer's perspective a little closer.

I pose a question about the industry itself, and to those who say that our industry is a mess, and not just changing or changed.

"What do these mixed responses tell us about ordering flowers?"

I have truncated the responses a little for clarity, and to point out the different emotions displayed in regards to this post more clearly.

Is it a professional looking design? - No
Does the amateurish placement of flowers detract from the enjoyment? - Possibly
Is someone enjoying the beauty of flowers? - Emphatically yes.

Even the 'cookie cutters' espoused by certain people on FC can look beautiful in the hands of a trained designer, they can also look ugly in the hands of an amateur.


But the recipient sees nothing wrong with them at all, just we the floral community do....all she sees is beautiful flowers sent by her adoring husband and is happy about them....amateur or not this florist did their job and will probably be used again by the sender...even if it was a barely passing grade in our opinion..

My thought is be thankful someone cared enough tweet thing so it has gotton attention so that someone will call you now, also it did get yours to post, sometimes I don't get it, we want folks to bye flowers then when they put up they got them then this, Heavens I seen worse in my lifetime, also I hate to say this, the trend for this year is pearlized enamal vases, or anything , even jewlery, from the things that I saw last week, and that of green , pearl, purple, gold and silver, so it is what it is,

This tells me that things are as it says in my signature. " It is NOT about the flowers, NOT about the florist, It IS all about meeting and exceeding the needs of the customer" -- and it is the skills I have learned, the credentials I have gained, that allow me to do that.

it looks like someone bought a bunch of flowers, and dropped them in the vase themselves, there is no way this came from a florist, right?!:itchy:

The flowers look healthy and fresh, just bad design IMO

- Vase is ugly and should go to a funeral.
- Balance is off, that stargazer is way too big for the size of the vase.
- Too much green left on the stems (They are likely in the water)
- Agree, the hole in the middle is too big fillers would help
- Roses look very soft at the bottom, will die tomorrow or the next day, and will have to be pulled out LONG before those lillies are done.

I put my response last here, because I have been wondering about when we discuss customer appeal and certifications, or shop designations, is it really the consumer we are talking about? I have no formal design training, have spent minimal time arranging flowers, but spend a great deal of time in a flower shop. I then created a judgment of this arrangement based on that experience, as did the rest of the posters.

What we all agreed on, is that the customer/recipient were very happy with the outcome here.

When we get into these heated debates about certifications, and leading the industry, we end up in boxing matches in a multi-cornered ring, with the certified designers, non-certified designers, been there done that's, newbies and assciation supporters all in different corners.

IMO, we have to either keep fighting amongst ourselves about our own take on what's wrong with the industry, or wake up to the fact that there is nothing wrong with the industry!

The industry has changed, and the consumer has changed. In the short term, being PO'd about it isn't helping. I guess a better question is,

"Do I get on the band-wagon, or succumb to this change and die?"

I do believe that the industry can be brought back to what it was, but I sincerely hope that no one is sitting around waiting for that to happen. Even a very strong movement will take years to accomplish, and most of us don't have that much time to wait.

I have anther post to follow shortly about design.
 
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