FTD Fall winter Collection

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carol

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I just looked at the pictures for the Fall Winter collections.. I think the containers are nice, for the most part.. but.. the arrangements, if you want to call them that, are all 'clutch, like in drop ship" style so I doubt there would be any incentive for the .coms to send the orders on to local florists. rather I believe they would be made in Miami and shipped in a box with the container as in direct ship. Now that is of course FTD's perogative and probably they would say it will stop the problems they have with local florists willing to accept the orders.
But it means we will not be buying any containers, no value in them for us. and the arrangments are not striking or unique or even particularly pretty.. all Martha Stewart style push as much as possible into a tight nosegay. This is what I see at our local grocery store. easy to do, well priced but kind of run of the mill. I am sure that the .coms will now be competing with our grocery store which is fine by me.

I think this is the year that the FTd new picture book will be released. I sure hope that the vast majority of design styles in this new book are appropriate for real florists. One of the remaining values of the wire service to me is to be able to show my customers nice, well designed, creative arrangements (not drop ins) and be able to show that same picture to the designing florist so that my customer has a reasonable expectation of getting something close to what they like. Unlike other florists who find their customers are satisfied with accepting their claim that the designing florist will do something nice, my customers like to have some input and control of what they spend their money on. We always have 6 monthly specials listed on our web page, on our monthly postcards,and in our spec cooler. I would like to be able to continue to find appropriate pictures from the FTD picture book to give them this option. Of course we give the standard subst. policy but if my customer is expecting a gardeny style sim. to Springtime Floral Garden basket I would be unhappy if a designer took it into his/her head to send some low, horizontal piece when we are expecting a22 inch tall basket
 
carol said:
claim that the designing florist will do something nice, my customers like to have some input and control of what they spend their money on. We always have 6 monthly specials listed on our web page,
Carol, I could not agree more about the offering of styles and arrs, that were shown in the latest Newsletter. One thing I'd differ on with you, and I hate her, but I think Martha would do better!

Regarding your comment above, what we do, and it has worked well for us, when a customer wants to send one of *our specials* out of town, is include the URL in the product description...seems to work well, have not had a complaint yet, and have had several florists ask permission to *copy* the item...(first step to building a Real Florist image gallery)...

Happy Easter!

mark
 
I think FTD has been sort of forced to design to the "lowest common denominator" in order to allow many of the bucket shop-types to accurately reproduce the basic designs. This keeps the customers from complaining that the "design" didn't look like the picture...

With so many higher-end shops dropping the wires, they probably made a good decision...
 
Ditto what Cathy has just said. I took a quick look at .com today and their Easter "Order Now" pages were 99% drop ship. Kind of late for that kind of ploy, but the "drop-ins" have been prominent on Telefloras pages for the past few months. Lots of cubes with drop-ins starting at $24.99? I think, maybe $29.99.
BUT the worst part of the "Fall/Winter Collection" did you notice?
10 TEN items for Christmas. And I think "copying" the large candle hurricane in amber and red for Thanksgiving/Christmas was just lack of imagination. The same hurricane/candle holder - different color.
 
Rhonda,

The logic behind the 10 items for Christmas is this:
(their logic, not mine - just explaining it)

1) More variety in designs
2) Some lower cost items
3) C1-C4 will get the heavy promo as usual
4) C5-C10 are available in smaller quantities and are designed to attract more niche interest
5) The florists aren't expected to codify for all then items, but if they do it will still cost less to get all ten items than it did last year to get all 6

Ryan
 
I don't know Ryan.. why would any real florist be interested in these containers.. there must be some built in ad.money, I mean that is the normal way of companies to accumulate co-op ad money for advertising. why pay that, why not just get a similar vase if you really like it for less money. It is not like there will be many or any incoming orders from the .coms for these pieces.. they really are set up to direct ship as drop ins. the only need the .coms will have for a real florist is a same day delivery and these items are priced way to cheap to make them profitable on an incoming order.
I think these items are aimed at the low end, grocery store, pro-flower low end customers, and those are lost to us anyway. And in the last year my customers have not been thrilled any longer with this tight drop in look. we still do tight compressed designs for some but they want lots of variety in texture, colors & type of flower.. I mean it really needs a designers touch. Maybe this could be mass produced but i don't really think it could be mass FedEx'd
 
Thanks ... I heard it from Soenen last week.

Time will tell :)

For the record, we are not carrying ANY wire service items for Mother's Day.

Ryan
 
Infinite said:
Thanks ... I heard it from Soenen last week.

Time will tell :)

For the record, we are not carrying ANY wire service items for Mother's Day.

We have a few for Mother's Day, but from the looks of things, we may not for Christmas. What a sad looking bunch of arrangements.

Audra
 
Infinite said:
For the record, we are not carrying ANY wire service items for Mother's Day.

Ryan
Me either....Mothers Day will make it one YEAR since we have had any...has not been an issue at all, and honestly, folks ask for the TF containers more than the FTD containers...and I'm not TF.....yet....
 
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