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By Del Jones, USA TODAY
Fri Apr 14, 7:57 AM ET

Office Depot CEO Steve Odland remembers like it was yesterday working in an upscale French restaurant in Denver.

The purple sorbet in cut glass he was serving tumbled onto the expensive white gown of an obviously rich and important woman. "I watched in slow motion ruining her dress for the evening," Odland says. "I thought I would be shot on sight."

Thirty years have passed, but Odland can't get the stain out of his mind, nor the woman's kind reaction. She was startled, regained composure and, in a reassuring voice, told the teenage Odland, "It's OK. It wasn't your fault." When she left the restaurant, she also left the future Fortune 500 CEO with a life lesson: You can tell a lot about a person by the way he or she treats the waiter.

Odland isn't the only CEO to have made this discovery. Rather, it seems to be one of those rare laws of the land that every CEO learns on the way up. It's hard to get a dozen CEOs to agree about anything, but all interviewed agree with the Waiter Rule.

They acknowledge that CEOs live in a Lake Wobegon world where every dinner or lunch partner is above average in their deference. How others treat the CEO says nothing, they say. But how others treat the waiter is like a magical window into the soul.

And beware of anyone who pulls out the power card to say something like, "I could buy this place and fire you," or "I know the owner and I could have you fired." Those who say such things have revealed more about their character than about their wealth and power.

Whoever came up with the waiter observation "is bang spot on," says BMW North America President Tom Purves, a native of Scotland, a citizen of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland, who lives in New York City with his Norwegian wife, Hilde, and works for a German company. That makes him qualified to speak on different cultures, and he says the waiter theory is true everywhere.

The CEO who came up with it, or at least first wrote it down, is Raytheon CEO Bill Swanson. He wrote a booklet of 33 short leadership observations called Swanson's Unwritten Rules of Management. Raytheon has given away 250,000 of the books.

Among those 33 rules is only one that Swanson says never fails: "A person who is nice to you but rude to the waiter, or to others, is not a nice person."

Swanson says he first noticed this in the 1970s when he was eating with a man who became "absolutely obnoxious" to a waiter because the restaurant did not stock a particular wine.

"Watch out for people who have a situational value system, who can turn the charm on and off depending on the status of the person they are interacting with," Swanson writes. "Be especially wary of those who are rude to people perceived to be in subordinate roles."

The Waiter Rule also applies to the way people treat hotel maids, mailroom clerks, bellmen and security guards. Au Bon Pain co-founder Ron Shaich, now CEO of Panera Bread, says he was interviewing a candidate for general counsel in St. Louis. She was "sweet" to Shaich but turned "amazingly rude" to someone cleaning the tables, Shaich says. She didn't get the job.

Shaich says any time candidates are being considered for executive positions at Panera Bread, he asks his assistant, Laura Parisi, how they treated her, because some applicants are "pushy, self-absorbed and rude" to her before she transfers the call to him.

Just about every CEO has a waiter story to tell. Dave Gould, CEO of Witness Systems, experienced the rule firsthand when a waitress dumped a full glass of red wine on the expensive suit of another CEO during a contract negotiation. The victim CEO put her at ease with a joke about not having had time to shower that morning. A few days later, when there was an apparent impasse during negotiations, Gould trusted that CEO to have the character to work out any differences.

CEOs who blow up at waiters have an ego out of control, Gould says. "They're saying, 'I'm better. I'm smarter.' Those people tend not to be collaborative."

"To some people, speaking in a condescending manner makes them feel important, which to me is a total turnoff," says Seymour Holtzman, chairman of Casual Male Retail Group, which operates big-and-tall men's clothing stores including Casual Male XL.

How people were raised

Such behavior is an accurate predictor of character because it isn't easily learned or unlearned but rather speaks to how people were raised, says Siki Giunta, CEO of U.S. technology company Managed Objects, a native of Rome who once worked as a London bartender.

More recently, she had a boss who would not speak directly to the waiter but would tell his assistant what he wanted to eat, and the assistant would tell the waiter in a comical three-way display of pomposity. What did Giunta learn about his character? "That he was demanding and could not function well without a lot of hand-holding from his support system," she said.

It's somewhat telling, Giunta says, that the more elegant the restaurant, the more distant and invisible the wait staff is. As if the more important the customer, the less the wait staff matters. People view waiters as their temporary personal employees. Therefore, how executives treat waiters probably demonstrates how they treat their actual employees, says Sara Lee CEO Brenda Barnes, a former waitress and postal clerk, who says she is a demanding boss but never shouts at or demeans an employee.

"Sitting in the chair of CEO makes me no better of a person than the forklift operator in our plant," she says. "If you treat the waiter, or a subordinate, like garbage, guess what? Are they going to give it their all? I don't think so."

CEOs aren't the only ones who have discovered the Waiter Rule. A November survey of 2,500 by It's Just Lunch, a dating service for professionals, found that being rude to waiters ranks No. 1 as the worst in dining etiquette, at 52%, way ahead of blowing your nose at the table, at 35%.

Waiters say that early in a relationship, women will pull them aside to see how much their dates tipped, to get a read on their frugality and other tendencies. They are increasingly discussing boorish behavior by important customers at www.waiterrant.net and other blogs. They don't seem to mind the demanding customer, such as those who want meals prepared differently because of high blood pressure. But they have contempt for the arrogant customer.

Rule works with celebrities, too

The Waiter Rule also applies to celebrities, says Jimmy Rosemond, CEO of agency Czar Entertainment, who has brokered deals for Mike Tyson, Mario Winans and Guerilla Black. Rosemond declines to name names, but he remembers one dinner episode in Houston a few years back with a rude divisional president of a major music company.

When dinner was over, Rosemond felt compelled to apologize to the waiter on the way out. "I said, 'Please forgive my friend for acting like that.' It's embarrassing. They go into rages for simple mistakes like forgetting an order."

Rosemond says that particular music executive also treated his assistants and interns poorly - and was eventually fired.

Odland says he saw all types of people 30 years ago as a busboy. "People treated me wonderfully and others treated me like dirt. There were a lot of ugly people. I didn't have the money or the CEO title at the time, but I had the same intelligence and raw ability as I have today.

"Why would people treat me differently? Your value system and ethics need to be constant at all times regardless of who you are dealing with."

Holtzman grew up in the coal-mining town of Wilkes-Barre, Pa., and in the 1950s saw opportunity as a waiter 90 miles away in the Catskill Mountains, where customers did not tip until the end of the week. When they tipped poorly, he would say: "Sir, will you and your wife be tipping separately?"

"I saw a lot of character, or the lack thereof," says Holtzman, who says he can still carry three dishes in his right hand and two in his left.

"But for some twist of fate in life, they're the waiter and you're the one being waited on," Barnes says.
 
Oh! did this strike a chord withme!!!!!
Did ALOT of corporate work when I had my "old" shop.....was in and out of some of these ceo's offices on a weekly basis.......
Big law-firm or small...there were class acts and there were those that just saw a drudge with flowers......The ruder they were, the more happy and politely I'd treat em!!!! ( a few even came round to being human).
Kinda sad really...that some people have to throw their weight around for no other reason than to "show us " they are legends in their own minds!!
A smile costs us nothing, a kind word is worth it's weight in gold, and not taking yourself too seriously when that glass of merlot lands on your lap is as my mom used to say...."class tells"
Great scribe Victoria....really struck a chord with me!
YAY SPRING!!!
jeannie
 
I think most of us have been in a situation where we have been treated as less than equal. Not only does the CEO or celeb. or whomever, need to learn how to treat people, we, as service people need to know how to react to lousy behaviours. :) You have it down pat... kill 'em with kindness and they almost always turn around. Then when we get back to our home base, we can go in to the back room and beat the crap out of the inflatable clown. ;)

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Many years ago, I was selling scales and cash registers. A large local grocery chain called and invited us to demo produce and deli scales. While I was waiting to give my demo, I was visiting with another company's rep while he set up his demo. An elderly man in bib overalls and flannel shirt wandered in and said "Watcha got there sonny?" and the other rep responded very rudely something like "I haven't got time for you right now." I left to set up my demo and the old man came in and asked the same question of me. Knowing my mom and dad would be ashamed if I talked like that to an elder, I explained the units to him answered his rather simple questions, and chatted in general. A few minutes later a team of about six middle managers came into the room for my demo, and I remember thinking "Boy is the old guy gonna catch it now". But as he left he turned to the executive leading the group and said "this is the one Bobby". The old fella was the founder of the chain and Bobby was the president.They must have bought thirty or forty scales from me and a bunch of other stuff over the period I remained with the company I represented.
 
Pete, one of my first jobs in my new life was in a rural flower shop/greenhouse. May 24 is a huge weekend for planting here, and we were busy as all get out!

Sadly someone died that weekend as well. A man in bib overalls, manure on his boots, and generally unkempt came in to buy funeral flowers. He, to me, looked impoverished so I showed him modest arrangements that I thought would fit his budget... well, you know where this is going I'm sure... the upshot is, he bought what he wanted, bought large and paid large, in cash. I never assume anything anymore. :) Oh, and he gave me a generous tip too!

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Victoria....

it's the VERY REASON'S that you posted that differentiate those people that "GET IT", from those that DON'T.
ANY of us can find fault with practically anything, or anyone that we come in contact with, BUT, the true spirit of a leader, is WHEN to pull the trigger, and WHEN to keep the "abuse" in their "holster"
It's pretty simple...maybe one THE COMMANDMENTS should be implanted at birth!!
 
Victoria, I live in a small town in the middle of rural middle America. Local legend has it a farmer in bib overalls and in not quite pristine condition went into one of the local banks and was looked down on by a new teller. Long story short, he ended up withdrawing all him money (LOTS of it) and closing his accounts because of the way he was treated.

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So true...

Victoria said:
"I saw a lot of character, or the lack thereof," says Holtzman, who says he can still carry three dishes in his right hand and two in his left.

"But for some twist of fate in life, they're the waiter and you're the one being waited on," Barnes says.

As a related note, I am wary of any so-called "experienced" designer/sales who are unnecessarily rude to our wholesalers/suppliers, whenever there is a problem with their products. I become even more wary of them when they are uncharacteristically nice to me.
 
DistinctiveFlorist said:
Victoria, I live in a small town in the middle of rural middle America. Local legend has it a farmer in bib overalls and in not quite pristine condition went into one of the local banks and was looked down on by a new teller. Long story short, he ended up withdrawing all him money (LOTS of it) and closing his accounts because of the way he was treated.

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Speaks to the old adage "Can't judge a book by it's cover". :) The man in bib overalls in my realm, as it turns out, was a well known, well liked and rather eccentric individual. I liked him alot for many reasons... mostly because he forgave my ignorance.

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goldfish said:
As a related note, I am wary of any so-called "experienced" designer/sales who are unnecessarily rude to our wholesalers/suppliers, whenever there is a problem with their products. I become even more wary of them when they are uncharacteristically nice to me.

Actually, I worked FOR (as opposed to with) someone in small town Ontario, a well known floral designer and teacher, who treated the wholesalers terribly.

I'm always of the belief that you get back what you give out in life. If I'm not nice to the wholesalers, they will not bend over backwards to help me out of a jam. I'm grateful to my wholesalers and all the help they give and have given over the years.

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