ya know, this is the thing. I have very little patience. I grew up in a flower shop. We taped and wired. Then when I was 19 I did a work shop where we learned how to hot glue the flowers with pan melt. That worked REALLY well. I never had a problem except with sterling silver roses. REAL sterling silver roses, do they still make them? Anyway, the prob was the calyx would shrink and also the sterling silver had a bit of oiliness to the calyx. So they fell out. But this tube glue stuff, good grief, I just don't have the patience for it. I'd rather go back to hot glue. OH, and yes, I did all sorts of test with hot glue, they lasted and lasted and lasted. J's gonna kill me for this one. He advocates the other glue. BUT IT TAKES TOO LONG!!!! Any tips anyone??????