Liars... they said it was over...
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WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL?
That only means that 15 people out of every 100 are out of work here in Michigan. It does not count those people who have seen their wages or hours cut.
I have hope because our great Democrat Governer Granholm and the Democrats who control the State Legislature are working on next years budget. It seems that they have found the answer for the state.
Last year they passed the biggest tax increase in our state history to balance last years budget telling the people that should take care of our problems. This year they will only be short about 3 billion and that's after Obamas stimulus money. And talk is they see the only way out is another big tax increase.
Talk about having a vision. Talk about working to create jobs. Talk about working for the taxpayers. It should make all those out of work people happy to be paying even higher taxes because here in the state your unemployment money is taxable.
That only means that 15 people out of every 100 are out of work here in Michigan. It does not count those people who have seen their wages or hours cut.
I have hope because our great Democrat Governer Granholm and the Democrats who control the State Legislature are working on next years budget. It seems that they have found the answer for the state.
Last year they passed the biggest tax increase in our state history to balance last years budget telling the people that should take care of our problems. This year they will only be short about 3 billion and that's after Obamas stimulus money. And talk is they see the only way out is another big tax increase.
Talk about having a vision. Talk about working to create jobs. Talk about working for the taxpayers. It should make all those out of work people happy to be paying even higher taxes because here in the state your unemployment money is taxable.
I believe that it will be quite a while before companies start hiring a lot of people. Most florists I know have plenty of people working reduced hours. That means even when business improves, the existing employees will get more hours before hiring new people.
I resemble that remark!
Nationally today's magic number is SIX.... for every one job opening there are 6 people unemployed that could apply....
TOTO
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I don't understand SFOX.............................
Sorry, but I'm confused!
51.7% of the voters voted for HOPE and CHANGE!
They got what they wanted, so what's the BEEF?
This man, Barack Hussein Obama, has given everyone who voted for him exactly what they wanted, RIGHT?
And now, anyone who criticizes this administration is a RACIST because they didn't want a BACK MAN (half white too) in the White House.
So what if his STIM-US-NOT plan didn't work? He Tried.
So what if he studied Saul Alinsky's book, "RULES FOR RADICALS". That doesn't make him a socialist, RIGHT?
So what if he sat in the Church Pew of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., in Trinity Church for 20 years advocating the THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM.
So what if ACORN got the vote out for his campaign despite the fact that, they are under investigation in 12 states for VOTER FRAUD, not to mention the recent video tapes showing that, they clearly advocate NOT PAYING TAXES and operating a brothel with underage ILLEGAL young girls from El Salvador is fine, as long as you call your new business, something like a consulting service.
Just don't get it SFOX! Obviously, you're one of those Americans who want this President's programs to FAIL.
By the way, what's up with this GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE PLAN?
And, why is it that, the members of the House and Senate, and even OUR PRESIDENT, wrote into their bills that, THEY ARE EXEMPT from the very GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE PLAN they are advocating for WEE, THE PEOPLE?
Could it be that, when you are part of the Washington insider group called SOCIALIST ELITISTS, you deserve so much better than, the LITTLE PEOPLE like us, will get or deserve?
Which is also why, the CHILDREN of OBAMA, and the rest of the Washington Elitists send their children to PRIVATE SCHOOLS like Sidwell Friends School in Washington, DC.
Quite frankly, the GOVERNMENT RUN PUBLIC SCHOOLS are just NOT GOOD ENOUGH for own their children, RIGHT?
Get with the program SFOX! What's good enough for them, is certainly, NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR US!
After all, only they know WHAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US, and quite frankly, what they have is TOO GOOD FOR ANY OF US!
Besides, they're all SPECIAL and after all, we're just, WE, THE PEOPLE!, and in their book, we don't count for nothing.
Sorry, but I'm confused!
51.7% of the voters voted for HOPE and CHANGE!
They got what they wanted, so what's the BEEF?
This man, Barack Hussein Obama, has given everyone who voted for him exactly what they wanted, RIGHT?
And now, anyone who criticizes this administration is a RACIST because they didn't want a BACK MAN (half white too) in the White House.
So what if his STIM-US-NOT plan didn't work? He Tried.
So what if he studied Saul Alinsky's book, "RULES FOR RADICALS". That doesn't make him a socialist, RIGHT?
So what if he sat in the Church Pew of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., in Trinity Church for 20 years advocating the THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM.
So what if ACORN got the vote out for his campaign despite the fact that, they are under investigation in 12 states for VOTER FRAUD, not to mention the recent video tapes showing that, they clearly advocate NOT PAYING TAXES and operating a brothel with underage ILLEGAL young girls from El Salvador is fine, as long as you call your new business, something like a consulting service.
Just don't get it SFOX! Obviously, you're one of those Americans who want this President's programs to FAIL.
By the way, what's up with this GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE PLAN?
And, why is it that, the members of the House and Senate, and even OUR PRESIDENT, wrote into their bills that, THEY ARE EXEMPT from the very GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE PLAN they are advocating for WEE, THE PEOPLE?
Could it be that, when you are part of the Washington insider group called SOCIALIST ELITISTS, you deserve so much better than, the LITTLE PEOPLE like us, will get or deserve?
Which is also why, the CHILDREN of OBAMA, and the rest of the Washington Elitists send their children to PRIVATE SCHOOLS like Sidwell Friends School in Washington, DC.
Quite frankly, the GOVERNMENT RUN PUBLIC SCHOOLS are just NOT GOOD ENOUGH for own their children, RIGHT?
Get with the program SFOX! What's good enough for them, is certainly, NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR US!
After all, only they know WHAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR US, and quite frankly, what they have is TOO GOOD FOR ANY OF US!
Besides, they're all SPECIAL and after all, we're just, WE, THE PEOPLE!, and in their book, we don't count for nothing.
Mikey the Flower Guy
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Mikey the Flower Guy
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it's gonna take a LONG time.....there are NO ABSOLUTE solutions, and US "protectionism" is just deepening the rift.
With a socialist President, and a protectionist Congress, you guys are in for a long ride, over a long winding road, built with an unpayable debt load.
Funny, you're Canadian, and you know what we Americans are going through. A lot of Americans still wonder why we tea baggers are protesting.
BamaE4U
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What do you mean . . . . a "Socialist" President.
According to some (even some in this thread), he is a moderate, that's all. . . . . .
I won't type what I am thinking . . . . . . . . . . read my . . . . . . .(dots)
back to the topic on hand: Michigan
Mark, the figure I've seen is unemployment is closer to 20% (19.7) when you figure in those who have exhausted their unempl. benefits (we only count those who report to Marvin) and those who work part time because they can't find a full time job.
as for Fox. Sorry guy, I don't see EITHER PARTY in our leglislature making ONE let alone all the hard choices that need to be made in lansing. Not only does our tax system need overhauling but so does our whole government structure. Not one of them deserve to be in office let alone collecting the 80+G they draw for a wage.
But until the public pulls their head out = we are getting what we deserve.
Mark, the figure I've seen is unemployment is closer to 20% (19.7) when you figure in those who have exhausted their unempl. benefits (we only count those who report to Marvin) and those who work part time because they can't find a full time job.
as for Fox. Sorry guy, I don't see EITHER PARTY in our leglislature making ONE let alone all the hard choices that need to be made in lansing. Not only does our tax system need overhauling but so does our whole government structure. Not one of them deserve to be in office let alone collecting the 80+G they draw for a wage.
But until the public pulls their head out = we are getting what we deserve.
Mikey the Flower Guy
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Michigan,Florida, and California have been hit the hardest, however, during their time, THOSE states LED the US economy, for a long time as well.
Michigan's unemployment levels ARE hovering somewhere just short of 19%, including the fact that cities, like Flint, have LOST almost 36% of their population base.
Michigan is ONE of Canada's BEST friends, and AS such, I've had MORE than a few guys coming into our shop, saying that they're going fishing to Michigan, and Sandie and I are heading to Frankenmuth, to spend some money.
This is a dangerous time for BOTH our recovering economies...the STUPIDEST thing we can do, is EXCLUDE one another, from our decision making!
Michigan's unemployment levels ARE hovering somewhere just short of 19%, including the fact that cities, like Flint, have LOST almost 36% of their population base.
Michigan is ONE of Canada's BEST friends, and AS such, I've had MORE than a few guys coming into our shop, saying that they're going fishing to Michigan, and Sandie and I are heading to Frankenmuth, to spend some money.
This is a dangerous time for BOTH our recovering economies...the STUPIDEST thing we can do, is EXCLUDE one another, from our decision making!
What I find interesting is why Canadians always comment on issues here in the US and how it affects them while are conveniently quiet on issues in Canada that affect the US.
And I love this idea you pose about EXCLUDING.
How much money is the Canadian government pouring into Michigan to help ease the financial destruction being wreaked over here?
Does the Candian government help with paying the unemployment benefits over here?
Does the Canadian government fund a program to help with the 100's of thousands of homes being foreclosed over here?
Does the Canadian government have a program to help the 100 of thousands of families who have lost their employer sponsered healthcare?
If the answer is NO to all, then I guess the only way we are going to pull ourselves out of this mess is by circling the wagons and spending what we have on repairing our finances ourselves. And if that means keeping the little money we have left here at home, instead of crossing borders, then so be it.
I find it much easier to be sympathic about others plight when I am not in that same situation.
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