magnics and pacemakers?

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Anyone use magnets as a standard with their boutonniers? I am going to start with all my wedding work.

Question.... do you ask about pacemakers? Do they really make a difference with the small magnets?? ....................I miss BJ, he would know the answer
 
Yes,
No magnets for anyone who would have contact with a pacemaker.
Including hugs.
I don't sell them anymore.
It was Phil Rulloda who stresed this at a class I took with him.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/549836

Nowadays, more and more people are getting pacemakers.
I have a client who had one inserted as an outpatient procedure on Friday and was back to work on Monday.
Amazing, the medical advances these days.
 
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Magnets are an issue for boutonnieres and corsages with medical devices, but I think it is a matter of the 1% making us overlook 99% of the people (and business $ with the add-on). The issue is very simple, and spoken in an open and honest environment, really easy to deal with. There are not that many people with this issue. The easiest thing to do is just say to your brides or even you Prom orders, "We use magnets in some of our design work. They warn us that the magnets can affect the performance of implanted devices. Is there anyone in your party that has one?" As long as your ask, you can easily keep from worrying. If you are truly afraid, the companies that use magnets in their products include warning labels that you can attach to the design to ensure a proper warning.
 
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Cory.....
Sorry...Wrong Answer!!

Brides & grooms do NOT know the medical condition and state of each and every relative or guest at the wedding. It is not just the person who is wearing the magnetized item...it also can affect any one who comes within a reasonable distance of the offending magnet (as when someone is being hugged).

I don't want to ever be in a position that I could knowingly or unknowingly affect an individual's health, just because I wanted to upsell something.

And your disclaimer would not hold water in most courts, because again the offending party may have read the disclaimer, but the innocent victim would not have had a chance to do the same.

I know that magnets are touted as the hottest thing since sliced bread. Not a good choice in my humble opinion. (Even though I agree that it can work very well).

Cheryl

ps...cory...there are more & more people with pacemakers & other things that react to magnets ...many more than you think. children & adults with irregular heart beats; Defibulators installed in all ages. Things that can send medical info regarding cancer treatments and other stuff. More than you would ever begin to think about. My point is that pacemakers and things that are affected by magnets are not just "for old people" any more!
 
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/11/061130081343.htm

There is lots of studies done on this, and I don't want to sound as the devils advacate, but as someon who has the defib device, I can tell from that has happened in my own body, When getting a sample of these darn thing when they came in opened the package, and well it was not pleasant, blamed it on the daily things, so off to see the wizard, the darn thing happedned again, had to go to a doctor, and well it was that cutzy magnet thing, and it was not preety, or that Father of the bride who fell out at a wedding , a few months back, No the florist didn't even think to ask, But with some many people haveing differetn tracking things, I would be careful...
 
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Before I used magnets I always asked if any of the wearers had a pacemaker... always.

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I agree that many people do have medical devices implanted today. As well, I agree that there are many other devices than pacemakers that this may affect.According to the Journal of Biomedical Materials Research Part A,an estimated 11 million people in the United States have medical implants, but this includes all medical devices. With the population of the United States at 303 million and growing, this is only 4% of the country. I am not disagreeing with the principle that we need to be extremely careful. I just want everyone to know that it is only 4% of the population that we are worried about, most definitely no where near the majority. There are ways to glue a pin on corsage using set ups other than magnets, I just don't want magnets to get a bad rap.
 
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Thanks all for the advice and warnings. I will think about this.

I know there have been a couple people on here that stated they use magnets for their boutinners. I can't remember who. I would like to hear from those people.

If I do decide to go with magnets, I WILL be asking the medical question. I am not decided yet.
 
Carrieanne I used magnets all the time for corsages and boutonnieres (once I had the go ahead from the customer). I loved them.

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The things one can learn on FlowerChat. My simple mind had never even thought of the potential danger of magnets.
 
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