Natasha Richardson dies after ski fall

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I loved her in "The Parent Trap"...


"Natasha Richardson, a film star, Tony-winning stage actress and member of the famed Redgrave acting family, died Wednesday after suffering injuries in a ski accident, according to a family statement. She was 45."

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http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/18/obit.richardson/

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Thanks, Mary Lou. I was just going to post a link about this. I saw her a few times on David Letterman, and thought she seemed so nice and down-to-earth. I am so sad about this! What a shame!
 
She was a recent judge on Top Chef (when they were in New Orleans) and she was completely charming. AOL had a picture of her with her Mom (Vanessa Redgrave) and her sister, Joely, who is also an actress. What a beautiful, graceful family. Very sad indeed!
 
awww...that's so sad!
 
They're talking about her on Larry King right now... CNN.
 
I was following this because of the Liam Neeson connection (The Irish Actor ) and was so sorry to see she died . Sad for the whole family .
 
thanks for posting this...as I opened up my browser, I just now read about her death.
 
Shame. I liked her in Maid in Manhattan as the bratty b**chy rich snotty girl.

what a shame.
 
Everyone please... kids AND parents.... wear helmets skiing and boarding.

Hopefully this will be a wake up call to all those who still don't wear helmets on the slopes.

I know lots of teenagers that don't (girls), I guess b/c of their hair.... and the parents allow it. I don't understand.
 
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Sadly all she had to do was wear a helmut.

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on the news the other day, there was a news clip about the reason that natasha may have died was due in part to canada's health care system. canadian doctors need to fill out a form for "cost effectiveness" when evaluating a patient for an mri. in other words, if it is the doctor's opinion that the cost is not worth the result, the patient is denied help.

that is why she then came to the US for medical help, to get that mri.

this is what was reported on the news. not my opinion.

i believe this is socialized medicine which is currently underway here in the US.

is there someone from canada that can explain this further?
 
She wasn't denied care. However, perhaps the sequence of events resulted in the tragedy.

Google Globe and Mail, or CBC or CTV... or just google her name. There are reports galore.

As I said earlier, had she worn a helmut as she was asked, or had she not refused care at the onset, had they not followed protocol and sent her immediately to Montreal... if only... but she was not denied care. So looking for a scapegoat is counterproductive.

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Victoria said:
She wasn't denied care. However, perhaps the sequence of events resulted in the tragedy.

Google Globe and Mail, or CBC or CTV... or just google her name. There are reports galore.

As I said earlier, had she worn a helmut as she was asked, or had she not refused care at the onset, had they not followed protocol and sent her immediately to Montreal... if only... but she was not denied care. So looking for a scapegoat is counterproductive.

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Good post. Hopefully the public will take away three important tips here to prevent future tragedies...

1. Helmets!!

2. Do NOT refuse medical treatment. Better to run tests and be sure you are in good health!!

3. If your loved one is severely injured and there are signs of a severe head injury, insist on a medical chopper if you are farther than 30 minutes to a hospital with a neurosurgeon. The chopper would have costs $800 and taken 30 minutes to be in Montreal. Instead it took three hours by the time she was transfered from the first hospital.
 
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Saw a report on this compared to the US system. The report showed the complete overuse of helicopter in the US system. It also showed the death of a young lady when the copter crashed, killing everyone on board except her friend who was also in the accident. The point of that story was that both girls had non life threatening injuries, prior to the helicopter crash.

You can find what you're looking for in any story, especially in hind sight. I think it speaks less to socialized medicine issues and more to divinity. If each person in the entire chain of events in both circumstances had made a different decision, it may have had a different outcome.
 
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case and point regarding medivac/lifeflight etc. My husband is an EMT with our fire department. The large hospital that runs the lifeflight service recently gave an ultimatum to our hospital to increase it's flights from our hospital. So trips for transfers for the ambulance service were slowed (meaning less overtime monies for the EMTs) but the problem is if I were a patient in need of trauma care or cath lab for chest pain...why should I wait 30 minutes for the chopper to get here, 30 minutes for evaluation by the chopper team, then 15 minutes back to the major hospital when that ambulance could have transported that patient from hospital to hospital within 45 minutes. Politics and reports showing "need" for lifeflight....
In this case, she laughed off the injury...passed on further evaluation. It was her choice. I'm sure because her case was an "emergency of dire need" that no medical tests were held up due to social style medicine. Tis a sad case and one many people should learn from.
 
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case and point regarding medivac/lifeflight etc. My husband is an EMT with our fire department. The large hospital that runs the lifeflight service recently gave an ultimatum to our hospital to increase it's flights from our hospital. So trips for transfers for the ambulance service were slowed (meaning less overtime monies for the EMTs) but the problem is if I were a patient in need of trauma care or cath lab for chest pain...why should I wait 30 minutes for the chopper to get here, 30 minutes for evaluation by the chopper team, then 15 minutes back to the major hospital when that ambulance could have transported that patient from hospital to hospital within 45 minutes. Politics and reports showing "need" for lifeflight....
In this case, she laughed off the injury...passed on further evaluation. It was her choice. I'm sure because her case was an "emergency of dire need" that no medical tests were held up due to social style medicine. Tis a sad case and one many people should learn from.
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oh yeah! When my hubby had a heart attack and had to be transfered from the local hospital to the big regional heart hosp., insurance refused to pay for the ambulance transfer from one hosp to the other. I can't imagine having to pay for lifeflight services and I know its much more than $800 bucks - the ambulance bill was $600....
 
victoria,
not looking for a scapegoat, just answers.

i am curious as to how your health care system works because measures are being taken now in the US that would be very similar to Canada's. is it not true that doctors need to evaluate the cost effectiveness of a patient before authorizing treatment for any given situation?

everyone makes bad judgment calls at one point in their life or another. so, yes, she should have been wearing a helmut. but she wasn't. so according to Canada's evaluation process, does that mean, too bad for her?

in the US, a universal health care system is being prepared for all Americans. if Canada's system is such as i understand, it would seem that the government makes the decision to treat a patient rather than the doctor. looking for a few answers, that's all.
 
Sharon, she refused care. We can't force it on her. When care came, sadly the chain of events led to it being too late for her.

Our system may have it's warts, but I'm grateful as can be that we have it. I couldn't afford the costs incurred by most in the States.

By the way, the government doesn't decide on the care. We don't have HMO's. I go to my doctor and she looks after me. I don't get any bills in the mail. I get mammograms, blood work or what ever is required, no bills. If I have a heart attack or am in an accident I'm taken to the hospital and cared for... no bills. I had a child... no bills. Child had tonsils out... no bills.

If I travel out of province or country I carry extra insurance just in case. Like I said if I had to be medivaced from the U.S. they may as well drop me in a hole because I couldn't afford the bill.

Yes indeed I do like our system. Alana appreciates it even more so because she has travelled to more Third World countries than I have. Yes she has a strong appreciation for our system.

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