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Found this in our local daily and got the full story from the Montreal Gazette site...............something like WS's giving discounts to the consumer to get the order.........

Mother ship trying to sink us: Bell dealers
Retail franchisees say wireless unit is acting unfairly

JAN RAVENSBERGEN
The Gazette


Friday, November 29, 2002
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Some cracks are starting to show in Bell Canada's wireless operation, a retail arm of Montreal-based BCE Inc.

Scott Phelan, twice named West Island Retailer of the Year and with 15 years of selling Bell-branded cell phones behind him, isn't the kind of guy you'd expect to see in the streets any time soon dodging tear-gas canisters to protest, for instance, a G8 Summit.

But there he was yesterday, allied with two other Bell Mobility cell-phone retailers to publicize a dealer-and-franchisee

insurrection against Bell Canada that's been bubbling behind the scenes for more than two years.

"Enough is enough," the 49-year-old Phelan declared. "We can't take it any more."

The three launched a frontal attack on Bell Canada, saying that they were speaking for more than 60 businesspeople who own 230 independently operated Bell Mobility and Bell World stores in Quebec and Ontario.

These account for 70 per cent of Bell's retail outlets across the two provinces.

Bell is allegedly undercutting these dealers and franchisees - tied by exclusivity agreements - using what Phelan and the others say are illegal and abusive trade practices to poach customers and siphon away their business base.

Phelan runs Espace Bell cellphone outlets in St. Laurent, Dollard des Ormeaux and Vaudreuil-Dorion, and said he's being set up to fail as the mother company pushes ever more intensively through its corporate Web site with cheaper cell-phone offers than he's permitted to provide.

Bell is also directing unhappy customers with problem cell phones sold through its Web site to its discontented dealers - without compensation, thus "seriously undermining the quality of its customer service," added Espace Bell franchisee François Carrier.

The former Bell Mobility executive said he was forced to fork over $200,000 to overhaul one of his outlets, only to discover that Bell footed a bill for the same amount a few stores away to convert an electronics outlet into a competitor:

"How can we survive," Carrier asked, "if our own supplier is scuttling our businesses?"

Canada's most powerful telecommunications group responded by calling the allegations "groundless."

Bell "has honoured the terms and conditions of its contractual agreements with its ... dealers and franchisees," BCE official France Poulin said.

Expect the utility's competition against its own middlemen to intensify, she warned: "We have to continue to diversify our distribution network."

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The dealer group, the Association of Independent Owners and Franchisees of Bell World and Bell Mobility Stores in Quebec and Ontario, filed an $80-million lawsuit against Bell arm Bell Distribution Inc. a year ago.

Phelan said the group has already racked up $600,000 in legal costs .

In the past, Bell "always came back and did the right thing," Phelan said.

"Since 1999, that whole position has changed.

"The game plan," he suggested, "is to draw this out, demoralize the dealers along the way, and re-acquire the dealers as they weaken, at bargain-basement prices for a fraction of their real value."

© Copyright 2002 Montreal Gazette
 
Yep...it does....

And, as the economy continues to change, and as big companies "try" to service consumers at a distance, as as local outlets get more fed up with BIG BROTHER we will see the tide turn...

As we can swim, and they can not...their GREED will eat them alive, and we will be back in controll....

Its sad too, because its so simple, all they would have to do, is to PARTNER with US, not the other way around, and everyone would come out the winner...

IDIOTS !!
 
<<Bump>>

Another blast from the past...seems nothing changes...or does it?
 
Interesting ... I was considering a blog post on this topic, as I'd forgotten about Hugh's thread from 2002.

I was recently purchasing phones from Telus for Strider employees. Being platinum clients, the pocket pcs were free with a contract. I added in a couple accessories and joked to the store manager that I wanted to help him show a little revenue from the store, seeing as he was giving away the phones. He replied that it didn't matter to corporate HQ - these stores were setup and designed to lose money. No corporately owned Telus store is profitable, because they severely subsidize the equipment, and make the $$$ on the usage.

It made me wonder about how the privately owned Telus stores or electronics retailers who carry Telus equipment feel about being undercut in this way, while their prices are fixed.

I'm not picking on Telus - all cell companies do this ... but it makes me glad that most florists aren't owned by the WS (yet), and can control their own pricing.

Ryan
 
Verizon is brutal that way down here too.

They'll set up their own company store in a city that has several of their dealers, and give WAY better deals than their dealers. One of the local dealers told me he just can't compete with their prices.

Sad but true but my last experience with one of their dealers sent me to the company store, and I've bought there every since - they have much more latitude for service repairs returns etc than their "licensed dealer" stores. Tried to do a return at a dealer store and I needed an act of congress - it took me over 6 months and about 5 trips into the store to get PART OF my money back, but the company store - no problem, "whatever you need we'll do for you".

They're more brutal than FTD with competing with their own vendors, tho likely following a trend that isn't going to stop. What are the Factory Mall Outlets all about?
 
Cell phone "resellers" here, meaning not "company" stores do not make any money if you default on the contract...they pay for the phones they sell, and give them to you or sell them at a reduced rate, and then they do not get reimbursed until your contract expires...
 
Wow! Double penalty!

Unbelievably brutal.

Maybe TFTD will take a lesson, or already have?
 
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