Studio Style????

dlnfloral

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Feb 26, 2008
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OK - I just maybe alittle slow on the uptake today but - had a bride email and tell me thank you for meeting with her and her mother and they had a wonderful time.(Did a wedding quote for them )But they decided to go with someone else because she had a "gut" feeling that my studio/style wasn't for her. What the &@%$ is that exactly?? Here's another question - when this comes up for you do you ask "who did you end up going with" or not?? I usually don't but I'm starting to wondering if I should.It just seems so unprofessional for me. Any conmments would make me feel better.
 
I did ask why and she said her gut feeling was that my studio/style might fit her needs. So what is that?
 
Oh Darlene.... are you not trendy enough???? I think it's a crock. Now you just forget her and move on....
She is a dingbat who doesn't realize it's our job to take their ideas and make it theirs not ours. I don't have one particular style, but that of what my bride wants.

PS.. I would love to know who they choose over me??? and why??? I am always afraid to ask as it doesn't seem professional.
 
Well- This may sting...but here goes.

It maybe exactly what Karen said. She may have felt that you were either not cool enough or maybe too cool. Look around your shop and at your portfolio. Only you can decide what she may be thinking.


Ask yourself -how old was she? Youngish or older? That may give you an indication if she thought you cool or not.

Does your shop look fun, funky, trendy, sophisticated, elegant? Old fashioned, "country", dated?

The extreme of either could tell you OR it could be subtle.

Either way- what she's telling you is your style isn't hers. Either you didn't show her stuff you have done in her style OR (and more than likely) she fell in love with someone else's style- maybe personality or maybe her personal style, maybe her design style, maybe her shop decor and style.

Another trend I have noticed (thanks a lot 'The Knot') is brides go and interview A LOT of vendors before they decide.

I get very disapointed when I loose a job. Then I get over it. It's hard not to take things personally, but try really hard not to.
 
Early in my career as a professional interior designer, I attended a business seminar where the question of whether or not to ask why you didn't get a project came up. The answer was to always ask, you need to know in order to tailor your business for future quotes. Done properly (no emotion, no pouting) it's considered a very professional thing to do, and you have a right to know after the work you put into the proposal, and the client has a duty to answer (hopefully truthfully) after taking your time. Also, in the professions, it's considered very good if you get 1 job in 10 quotes. Darlene, you're probably doing much better than that, so pat yourself on the back!

Nine times out of ten, you won't get a very good answer (as in this case), but occasionally you'll get a real gem that you can use. I had a few. One told me that my team did not appear to be very cohesive - that led to future presentations being either by myself, solo, or a better rehearsed team effort. One told me that they elected to go with a company that appeared more cutting edge - that made me more selective of the type of projects we were going for, and to improve presentations. Most were about the cost - which made me take a good, hard look at how we used our time (fees were based on estimated hours), and take a good, hard look at our competitors. Sometimes the answer was that the client didn't think we had sufficient experience - nothing I could do about that except keep plugging away to gain experience, unless the real answer was that we weren't projecting our capability.

Any way you look at it, the answers can hurt but they are also a real opportunity to change for growth. So, yes, I always ask.

What to ask: Yes, ask who they went with, then you can judge your talent against the winner's. If you're consistently losing to one shop, you need to know. Compliment the customer on their choice, something along the line of, "Of course I'm sorry that we're not doing your wedding, but XYZ has an excellent reputation, too, and I'm sure your day will be spectacular." As to why you didn't get the wedding, I find being totally honest for your question to be a good way - "I'm only asking this so that we can improve ourselves" and then thank them for their comments and for giving you the opportunity to quote. Keep it short, and end with an open door - "I hope you have a wonderful day, and if there's anything we can do for you in the future, please don't hesitate to call us."

3 years ago, I lost a wedding but gained every dinner party, thank you gift, sympathy & birthday arrangement that the bride's mother gave after that. And great word-of-mouth ("Oh, XYZ is fine for weddings, but Joseph Flowers does everything!") Not so bad. Of course I would've liked to have done the wedding, but it wasn't a total loss.
 
My feeling is to trendy or over the top but that was the feeling they were expressing.I usually just blow it off but there was alot of time put into it and it just annoyed me. I got a consultation fee but just was very odd.

I do like to know what I'm up against and I usually know the scoop.I am going to ask her who she is using.If it's who I think it is,she had been undercutting everyone just to get the weddings.
 
Another thing also to keep in mind... Sometimes people will flat out lie and say it's something different like "studio style" whatever the heck that means... When really it's money money money.

I personally know people who rather make up some BS story than admit they just can't afford what they want.
People are so freaking weird.
 
I agree they tell you some story instead of telling its too much money. Most want a big wedding that they can't afford. Most would rather go with out flowers and have the big show in food and drink I know one who wanted free drinks for the guests and gave up flowers all together.
 
You have already lost the sale, so, you have nothing to lose by asking why she did not pick your shop. I have ha businesses call me when I didn't go for their product and it never bothered me to tell them why.

Also, I think it was thoughtful of her to at least let you know she was not going with you. Many of them just dissappear with no thought.
 
Also, I think it was thoughtful of her to at least let you know she was not going with you. Many of them just dissappear with no thought.[/QUOTE]

I agree I was impresses with that. Her mother called me and asked if I would do her shower flowers.So what the heck??? Go figure
 
Also, I think it was thoughtful of her to at least let you know she was not going with you. Many of them just dissappear with no thought.

I agree I was impresses with that. Her mother called me and asked if I would do her shower flowers.So what the heck??? Go figure[/QUOTE]

That makes NO sense at all. I'm telling you- it was a price issue. Shower flowers are less volume therefore less money. Wedding flowers is a lot more money. I know it was money.
 
I have to agree with Shannon. That sounds like a pricing issue. It sounds weird to say it, but there have been times I dealt with the father of the bride. I LOVED dealing with him. All he cares about is two things.........How much is it going to cost me and will my little girl be happy? To use a quote by Sharon MuGukin.....I tell them, for this amount, the bride will be happy, and for this lower amount, we can omit some things and she'll notice, but it won't register......and if we go with this price, she not only will notice, it will register, and she will be crying and hate you for a long time. The end result is........every time I get the response "Do the middle one"

To that end, I am developing a series of wedding packages......a low end, a medium end, and a high end price. All inclusive with additional all inclusive reception packages.

It specofies the number of designs, the types and styles, BUT, allows room for up selling.

To give a good example.......I talked to a bridal client last week, she went with an upgraded middle price package.......including some additional things.....including four junir bridesmaids......She told me she thought about them having a wrist corsage done for each of them.......with the smallest one being just under 2 years old. This is where we as artists and creative people have to shine.......this is where real florists begin to change the world.......I pointed out to her that the timy corsages may be uncomfortable for the little ones to wear and they would mess with them, tug them, and not be happy little girls.....instead......what did I suggest?

Each little girl carries a white teddy bear with a cluster of flowers tied with ribbon around the neck of the bear. The girls keep the bear. The bears had an 8.99 retail price, I charged 24.99 per bear with an accent of flowers.....but they girls will hold on to the bear, they'll feel more comfortable, and how cute will they be in the photos......in their little dresses holding a plush bear.

It takes thinking like that to effect real change........the ws and the box store isn't going to do that? She spent MORE money than the package costed......with ADD-ons.

The bonus.....each package has about a 30 percent profit margin built in !!!!

Can you match that?
 
All it takes is thinking a little outside the proverbial box. I'm telling ya'll, this florists for change group.......need to not begin in a hotel conference room in Vegas, making the hotel richer, losing at the casino, drinking high-priced booze.......No, that's not where real change will take place. It takes place one client, one customer at a time. THe base price package she went with was 550.00 package.....featuring 4 varieties of flowers - roses, hydrangeas, asiatic lilies, snapdragons. With her add-on's - we add green hypericum, yellow mini-callas, purple dendrobium, and orange spray roses. Her colors are yellow, salmon/coral, lime, and a taupe/mauve. Over 200 dollars more in add-ons, including the four little bears.
 
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Are you ready for the kicker?? Happened today.Got a call from one of my free lancer and YES YOU GUESSED IT!! She just got the order.She is truely a "studio" business and her price was only $100 cheaper than mine.The Bride even mention that she met with a great lady in Naperville but thought her ideas were too much for her to comprehend.Ends up pretty much the ideas I gave her just different shaped vases for the reception. Here's the best part - the freelancer will be renting space from me to make the wedding. CRACK ME UP!!

It is a strange world we design in.But life is grand it always comes full circle one way or another.
 
Darlene, do you have a portfolio to show brides? Naturally it may not be the exact thing from bride to bride, but it you might be able to give your potential brides more perspective when you show them rather than tell them.


But sometimes it's hard for brides to get it until they see it. My woodsie bride this past weekend said as I handed her bridal bouquet "Oh my gosh! It's so pretty! I couldn't see in my mind what it would look like but it so much more beautiful than I expected!"


And then again- no matter what you do, they still go somewhere else.
 
Darlene, do you have a portfolio to show brides? Naturally it may not be the exact thing from bride to bride, but it you might be able to give your potential brides more perspective when you show them rather than tell them.

OF COURSE,she even brought photos with her.I don't get weddings all the time this one was just very odd/strange.It just makes me wonder what the heck people are thinking.Thanks for all the responses