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[BOSS]

Anyone confirm that TF is finally floating TF.com out there for the public ??

I know I said they would be long, long ago, and EVERYone said Nah...NEVER...

Maybe it's just a rumor....

 

[theRKF]

If by floating to the public you mean capturing orders and spoon-feeding them back at 70%, then NOPE - not happening.

 

[BOSS]

Meant more like "gatherinng" and even if they send them innto the shops at 100% they "may" be keeping a service charge ??

Got the hint, from that other BB, hence my asking for someone to confirm the RUMOR....

Something about Bill Boards in the DC/Boston area for MD...

 

[Luc]

100% is alot better than 70%...Even if they get the order and keep the service charge for their troubles. It is better teleflora getting it than another wire service or order gather that would give it back to you for 70%.
To me that is no brainer.
Luc

 

[theRKF]

Meant more like "gatherinng" and even if they send them innto the shops at 100% they "may" be keeping a service charge ??

Got the hint, from that other BB, hence my asking for someone to confirm the RUMOR....

Something about Bill Boards in the DC/Boston area for MD...

I thought they were doing that before?

I'm not up on the web side of TF - not in great detail. I do know that I'm going to win those bets, though ... anyone care to double up?

 

[BOSS]

I'm not up on the web side of TF - not in great detail. I do know that I'm going to win those bets, though ... anyone care to double up?

Me either...nope

 

[theRKF]

Just to clarify ... I thought (my understanding only) that if you didn't have a paid site, they kept the 9.95 and sent the order through.

Could be wrong... I'll have to check.

 

[carol]

WAy Back ages ago Royer used to

IN the late 1990's Royer set up a web site and invited florists to use it and advertise it as their own link and he gave the orders back to them at 100% less the service charge... Worked great for him because he got to keep the sender's data & market to him.. not the hardworking florist who thought Royer was doing him such a favor..
So if TF is setting up this and telling you all that they will send the order thru at 100%.. find out who gets the sender's data.. because that is more valuable than the first order... In our industry the estimate to get a new customer is between $15.00 and $22.00..
Beware of 'Greeks' bearing gifts.. as they say

 

[theRKF]

IN the late 1990's Royer set up a web site and invited florists to use it and advertise it as their own link and he gave the orders back to them at 100% less the service charge... Worked great for him because he got to keep the sender's data & market to him.. not the hardworking florist who thought Royer was doing him such a favor..
So if TF is setting up this and telling you all that they will send the order thru at 100%.. find out who gets the sender's data.. because that is more valuable than the first order... In our industry the estimate to get a new customer is between $15.00 and $22.00..
Beware of 'Greeks' bearing gifts.. as they say

The customer data comes to the filling shop - at least for members with paid sites.

 

[Blue Oyster Cult]

From what my pea brain read into a TFWeb increase comment

I shouldn't even comment since I'm not with tf anymore but a fee increase was mentioned in the members March? statements which was something like an increase from the $1.95 fee for the pleasure of TF sending those members who have paid web orderable sites thru TF (which are sent on the Dove)(wonder if those Credit Card Numbers are encripted on the Dove?) hummmm

Well anywho the $1.95 fee is being increased to $3.95, a $2.00 increase per TF web order received and Hardcopied on the Dove for paying members.
Man that is one sure way to get the effect of "pay per click".

Let me see..$3.95 times say 20 web orders for this mothers day...$79 bucks in fees and YET not one has began to process the CC for any additional Fee or added to the fact that you also have another $50 per month for that static website which everyones in town looks the same.

Some may view this increase as a Plus for the so called "advertising blitz", some view this as an expence of doing business and then their are some who just don't know what is going on.

You guys and gal's fiqure it out.

 

[Hal Conklin]

Some may view this increase as a Plus for the so called "advertising blitz", some view this as an expence of doing business and then their are some who just don't know what is going on.

You guys and gal's fiqure it out.

Its more like I said in a earlier post.. ITS CALLED LOSS OF ORDERS, LOSS OF BIZ they had to make it up somewhere. :spankmecu

 

[flowerknife+us]

If you pay for a website with Teleflora ($50.00) per month, you pay $1.95 for each order received from the customer that comes directly to you site. If you recieve the order through the Teleflora.com site that you are charged $3.95 but you recieve the 9.95 service fee that they have collected, plus deliver and 100% of the price of the item.
If you do not pay for a website the only way to recieve a website order is through Teleflora.com. Teleflora keeps the service fee and charges the florist $3.95 to receive the order. Florist receives the order amount and delivery charge.
Definately an insentive for the florist to pay the $50.00 to have a paid site and advertise it.
Also, Teleflora websites are very customizable! Several templates to choose from, any personal information you wish to add, you can use al your own pics if desired, pop-up adds, coupon specials, contact forms cutomizable, Shop pics or employee pics, etc.. No additional fees for changes made and you can send in changes as often as you wish. I can't speak for others but they are always usually made with in 24 hours for us. Florist do have options they just don't utilize them!!

Just information, Don't attack!!

As many have said before they are not perfect but we see them as the lesser still of two evils, at least for the time being.

Knife's Wife
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[Hal Conklin]

Media99

If you pay for a website with Teleflora ($50.00) per month, you pay $1.95 for each order received from the customer that comes directly to you site. If you recieve the order through the Teleflora.com site that you are charged $3.95 but you recieve the 9.95 service fee that they have collected, plus deliver and 100% of the price of the item.
If you do not pay for a website the only way to recieve a website order is through Teleflora.com. Teleflora keeps the service fee and charges the florist $3.95 to receive the order. Florist receives the order amount and delivery charge.
Definately an insentive for the florist to pay the $50.00 to have a paid site and advertise it.
Also, Teleflora websites are very customizable! Several templates to choose from, any personal information you wish to add, you can use al your own pics if desired, pop-up adds, coupon specials, contact forms cutomizable, Shop pics or employee pics, etc.. No additional fees for changes made and you can send in changes as often as you wish. I can't speak for others but they are always usually made with in 24 hours for us. Florist do have options they just don't utilize them!!

Just information, Don't attack!!

As many have said before they are not perfect but we see them as the lesser still of two evils, at least for the time being.

Knife's Wife
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I believe Media 99 only charges 1.75. per order and their service is second to none. THE BIG PLUS they are independant !!

 

[Rhonda]

I have the "generic" site through Teleflora. It usually shows in about less than 2 pages on a search engine. Quicker if someone knows me personally and types in millinocket floral.........Granted (very small town, sucky economy) we don't get many web orders, but I did check through Easter, and we're getting phone calls with them looking at the site but calling not ordering over the net.
Soo....that $50 has paid off this month. Not quite sure about the past months since I can't discover the links on myteleflora.com to check the hits etc (they seem to have buried that info). Yes, they used to charge $1.95/order coming into my Dove machine from the net. We'll see what the extra advertising does through Mother's Day, as I pay for my site, the other 2 "teleflora" shops don't. Probably will be dropping both services at the cut off dates anyway due to our largest employer still not running and am cutting all unnecessary costs, the wire service, the biggest cost is out of here.
I do NOT market my site to my local customers...look but call please. Don't pay the "big charges".....
From what I read on myteleflora (statement)...they will be adding the $9.95 then giving that to us if we have a viable site but still charging $3.95 to process the order. Still gives me $6.00 more in my pocket...

 

[BOSS]

Thanks Ms. K and Rhonda too...

I'm still trying to figure this one out...

TF 50 bucks a month plus 3.95 per order... O.K. you get the info on web orders (only yours?)

FTD, 35 bucks a month (cheapest site I think ?) and 1.95 per order and you get the info wether they came from your site or from Florist On Line either way...

Lessor of two evils ? Not so sure...

Seems the game changes every few weeks ?

Thanks for the info !!

 

[bloomz]

If by floating to the public you mean capturing orders and spoon-feeding them back at 70%, then NOPE - not happening.

You mean like this? http://www.flowerclub.com add in the per inc fee and you are less than 70%

The customer data comes to the filling shop - at least for members with paid sites.

Don't you REALLY think they keep a copy of it? Wouldn't you, just for a rainy day? Lots of florists are going out of business, who will take care of those customers? I'd like to have that data.

Remember when (still think it's happening) if you had a site with FTD, and dropped it or them, the site then went to ftd.con, if you were using their domain (ftd.com/bitemeflowers type name) Lots did.

 

[theRKF]

You mean like this? http://www.flowerclub.com add in the per inc fee and you are less than 70%

The topic was advertising TF.com as an OG site. FlowerClub is a separate issue. But I think you & I have discussed that one before.

Don't you REALLY think they keep a copy of it? Wouldn't you, just for a rainy day? ...

Honest answer, yes I would. But, I've asked about this and been told "no."

Remember when (still think it's happening) if you had a site with FTD, and dropped it or them, the site then went to ftd.con, if you were using their domain (ftd.com/bitemeflowers type name) Lots did.

I don't remember that, but it only makes good sense. This is the web-designer in me speaking now. You NEVER want a potential customer to face a 404 error. It has become an art across the web to buy expiring domain names and point them to your content. It only makes sense that FTD (& probably TF, but I don't know at all if they do) would function that way.

 

[flowerknife+us]

Boss if you are a paying member you get the customer info regardless of where it came from.

Knife's Wife