This Is Who Is Representing The Industry?

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Many / most of you are probably already familiar with IFD, a self-professed
marketing company owned by 24 like-minded floral wholesale distributors focused on the development of marketing opportunities for its members.
Executive Director Jeff Lanman emailed me today, having lost his FlowerChat password. In and of itself, that's not a problem. Even though the login form and the weekly newsletter have links to the password reset feature, we still get the occasional email asking for assistance and we're glad to help out.

What troubled me was the lack of professionalism displayed within the emails. Most were one line messages, none were signed - not even with a default signature. To my knowledge, this is the first correspondence I've had with Jeff.



Jeff @ 1:58pm (replying to today's newsletter): I still hate your singon - it [sic] why I never visit

Ryan @ 2:02pm: I'm sorry to hear that. Our registration policy is one of the primary reasons for the quality and integrity of our community.If you're having password trouble, we can help you out.

Jeff @ 2:02pm: Ok that didn't work - make it logical at least sheshhh idiots

Jeff @ 2:03pm: Password please- the page said it was in the email NOT
(FTR the message was that the reset link was in the email - not the password. Emailing a password is very unsecure)

Jeff @ 2:03pm: Even by 5 year old can figure out why some of us don't visit regularly

Jeff @ 2:06pm: Might be but the information communicated can easily be made user friendly! I don’t visit because I have to reset my password everytime I visit! Efficient – I think not!

Ryan @ 2:07pm: Idiots? "Even a 5 yr old" ?? FlowerChat is a forum for professionals - are you sure you really want to participate?

Jeff @ 2:08pm: So do you have to hold your tongue is some unique way as well?

Jeff @ 2:09pm: Great system – I never should of told our members to visit here.

Jeff @ 2:10pm (replied to an automated notice that his account was frozen for 15 min due to too many failed login attempts): Lol ohhh the integrity thing - good bye - top secret information must behind the door


I'm normally not one to air dirty laundry in public - even in a private forum like this. What really bothered me in this case is that Jeff is the Executive Director of an organization purposed with marketing flowers. Additionally, he is the chair of the Business and Economic Trends Committee of SAF, which means he reports (at least indirectly) to a significant number of FC members who are dues-paying SAF supporters.

Am I off-base here and over reacting, or should be be requiring higher standards of professionalism and conduct for those purporting to lead this industry?

Ryan
 
No- you are not over reacting.
Yes- someone with that position should act more professionally.
Something I need to work on as well.
 
He sounded like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum, no, make that a 2 year old.

Very unprofessional, and I might add, he sounds like he has a real chip on his shoulders. I wonder what he is like if you take a valid problem to him... is he always this sarcastic?
 
WOW and I thought I could be "unprofessional" - This guy makes me look like the most professional florist on the planet!

I am so sorry that he felt the need to belittle us "idiots".. But honestly -
Who's the idiot? We all log on everyday with no problems... HHMMM.

You handled yourself very well - I would have been inclinded to ask him if it had been a while since he had some lovin'!
 
I don't know him. Never heard of him. He sounds like he's the idiot.

He needs to remember that this is your playground and he isn't automatically allowed in here.
 
Arrogantly Ignorant is my best description!

WOW Ryan! You sure have much more patience than I could or ever would have, with a person like this.

I call this syndrome, ARROGANTLY IGNORANT!

After the back and forth nonsensical dither, my choice of options would've been to hit the DELETE key and POOF, he bee gone.
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oh so like he doesn't use passwords anywhere else he visits online? That's scary that someone like that is "in charge" of anything that has to do with computers I guess.
 
Let me at him... come one LEMME AT "EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He needs a good dose of BOSS!!!!

And I agree, it's apparent by his communication skills why SAF... oh never mind...

LEMME AT "EM!!!!

ADDED: BTW FlowerChat has been tested and is operable by 3 year olds in most cases... "Jeff" must be having operator ERROR!
 
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I have a stronger word than idiot, but seeing as i am a professional i shall join you all in the idiot branding of this guy.

Tell him to feck off Ryan!! :)
 
No you're not over-reacting, he is being very un-professional.

However, I don't think this should have been aired publicly. I hope you shared the thoughts you posted here, with him privately.
 
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No you're not over-reacting, he is being very un-professional.

However, I don't think this should have been aired publicly. I hope you shared the thoughts you posted here, with him privately.
Thanks, Tracy.

I did give it some thought before posting. I only thought it was relevant because of the two positions he holds within the industry. I don't know if the SAF position is a paid or volunteer role, but either way it's funded by those here who pay SAF dues. He may also represent one or more wholesalers you do business with.

Ryan
 
sorry, I still disagree.

There have been many posts about industry peeps we all know, kept relatively anonymous for etiquette reasons. If he stole from you, or was stealing from many, like a certain big shot florist who used to be here some time ago - maybe a different story.

He was rude, unprofessional - not exactly a capital sin, but certainly not behavior I'd expect from an industry "leader". That being said, I've seen much worse, from much more important people.

Did you tell him your thoughts?
 
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