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I just happened on this article while searching the net.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450445,00.html

Anyhow, it worries me. I'm surprised people feel it's ok to do this. I don't condone christians telling others they will go to hell (only He can judge) at the same time I don't feel it's right for a non-believer to be blatantly disrespectful either.
This part of the article really hit home:

"It's a stupid ad," he said. "How do we define 'good' if we don't believe in God? God in his word, the Bible, tells us what's good and bad and right and wrong. If we are each ourselves defining what's good, it's going to be a crazy world."

I started thinking...isn't that so true...isn't that already happening???

Thoughts?? Not looking to get into a heated debate here just want to know others' thoughts on this.

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SCARY Aileen!

Only goes to show us the level of their arrogance now, as they try to infiltrate and debase the core values of our religious and moral beliefs, which this society was founded on.

Be aware, be very aware! And, be prepared to FIGHT IT OFF!

Like PIRRANA, they are relentless while trying to bite off our flesh bit by bit, until some point in time, their victims are but skeletal remains.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
 
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I love to provoke thought. And I love thought provoking suggestions.

So since we are not going to argue or debate, here's my thoughts....

I don't need a reason to do the right thing.
 
Very thought provoking indeed Shannon....please elaborate oh and I KNOW you will!! ;)

ps. Is it really cold there now??
 
Thanks TOTO for the reminder of that poem.
 
Most people in this world have a conscience... they already know whats right from wrong... right from when we were born... little kids know when they are doing something wrong and try to hide it... we haven't told them that its just something that is already ingrained in us BUT here is where it gets sad... there are alot of people out there that don't seem to have a conscience... all their judgement and standards have been turned around and the choices that they are making in their lives are devasting not only themselves but others around them. Unfortunately I think that there will be more people like that around more and more.... and thats where it does get scary!
 
Not everyone is a Christian... doesn't make them bad or without conscience (conversely, not every Christian is a paragon of virtue). Everyone has the right to exercise their beliefs even if they don't match everyone else.

Living the best life you can, without inflicting pain and sorrow to those around you is the goal no matter what your beliefs are.

The ads are provocative yes, they may offend some sensibilities but thank goodness they live in a country where their freedoms of thought and beliefs are protected.

And please don't jump all over me and call me Godless, because you would be wrong.

V
 
aileen_c said:
Very thought provoking indeed Shannon....please elaborate oh and I KNOW you will!! ;)

ps. Is it really cold there now??
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yes it has gotten cold, ((((((boooooo)))))

And as far as elaborating, I think I'll just leave my initial statement alone and let it stand on it's own merit.
 
I read the article and it is interesting that they comment on the "association" of Christmas and religion....hmmmm. It is not an "association" it IS the reason for Christmas.
Nobody would ever think to tell Jewish observers not to associate religion with Hanukka!
I find this very interesting that these people would think they have to run a $40,000 ad campaign to JUSTIFY what they believe. If it is truly their belief, then it seems to me there should be no insecurity in having to justify it.
As for their feeling of loneliness perhaps that void is because they are resistant to entertaining the possibility of something greater than themselves. I could definitely see where you would feel very alone if it seemed that you were not apart of something greater than being merely human...and that nothing exsists beyond what you can see.
However if that is your choice to believe it then the void is there and it is what it is. I really don't understand why it is the responsibility of everyone else to help them feel better about it.
 
I have believed and not believed, and my life is better because of believing. That's just my deal.

The mindset of fear about it baffles me. I don't see those people as a danger or worry about it, it is not threatening in any way to me if someone doesn't believe. That is their deal and even if they buy billboards, so what. I honestly think that spending a minute worrying about what others are believing or if they are believing the "appropriate" things is a waste of my time, and concerning myself with my own relationship with God on a personal level is a full time job.

I like that Ghandi quote "be the change you wish to see in the world".
 
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I don't see them as a danger either. I just find it interesting that they are making an issue of not believing in anything. What is the point of that?
Spend $40,000 on winter coats for little children or something...sheesh
 
vghstaffer said:
I read the article and it is interesting that they comment on the "association" of Christmas and religion....hmmmm. It is not an "association" it IS the reason for Christmas.
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Hmmm I gotta be careful here...

Nothing toward the quote above...

But I do feel we have really messed up Christmas in the first place. Now that might sound funny coming from one who makes a lot of money off the holiday, but we have lost the very essence of the reason for Christmas, in all the hullabalu of marketing toys and other gifts.

The real reason, to celebrate the birth of Christ seems to have been lost in the shuffle. Yes, it is a "religious" holiday...as it should be.

Personally I'd give up the sales generated if everyone would get back to what it's really all about, and honestly care for their fellow man.
 
Things in the media like this ARE very upsetting to many of us who believe-
I look at it this way now (after a long time of letting stuff like this really get to me) God is just sooo much bigger - have faith ....the silly things humans do (Christians too) are a speck of sand in the big picture.
I have a little saying on my coffee cup-

relax... and let God be God

and really, that's all there is to do..
 
I personally don't think anything about the article. I think it is a stupid "campaign" or whatever they want to call it. People feel left out all the time.

Do we need a campaign for the people who are left out during Valentine's Day? Do we need a campaign for those who aren't mothers and fathers during Mother's Day and Father's Day?

Well, we are in a country that prides itself on freedom of speech. It's either freedom for all or freedom for none. There are lots of things I read and hear I find offensive but that is all part of our country.
 
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Twiggy, I have to agree with you. Loved what you said!! Thanks!
 
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