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Mikey the Flower Guy

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for all of us in North America....actual internal "memo".....

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dear Fellow Shareholders:[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Being the captain of the Titanic is no fun. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I am the CEO and the chairman of General Motors, what was, until recently, one of the largest and most powerful corporations in the world. For decades, GM was a model of capitalism. Our bonds were the highest quality you could purchase. Our dividend was the safest. Our jobs were among the best in America. Our operations shaped accounting standards. What was good for GM was said to be "good for America." [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Today, only a thin veneer of optimistic statements, crafted by my lawyers so that they can't be definitely called "lies," keeps this firm from slipping into bankruptcy. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For example, I told the world in our press release we saw "steady improvement in our financial results" and "strong evidence that our commitment to great cars and trucks is being embraced by consumers around the globe." Luckily for me, "steady improvement" and "strong evidence" are meaningless puffery that can't be proven to mean one thing or another.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Instead of living the life of a captain of industry – where I'd take credit for the hard work of our thousands of employees – I find myself leading an expansive game of financial charades. I have become nothing more than a dressed-up street hustler, running a shell game on you, our loyal shareholders. But at least I have this outlet. As I have done for nearly a year, I will again tell you the sad truth about our operatio ns and our helpless financial situation.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]First, as I have told you before, "We have infrastructure and employee obligations that outpace what we can afford given our greatly reduced profit margins and debt load." Specifically, we have long-term debts of $36 billion, retirement benefit obligations of $60 billion, and another $16 billion in various other long-term liabilities.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]How did we end up in this position? It didn't happen overnight. For 19 out of the last 20 years, GM operated at a capital deficit. We simply didn't make enough money selling cars to maintain our asset base, make new investments in future capacity, and pay our cash dividend. If you look at the numbers carefully, you see our total capital deficit over the last 20 years was $275 billion. After we worked through our accumulated savings , we began borrowing money – more and more of it every year. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]So far this year, we've paid approximately $4 billion in interest on these various liabilities. I estimated, in an earlier letter to you, that we would require about $5.81 billion in cash from operations merely to pay the interest on our debts. I still believe that's an accurate forecast. Our global cost of borrowing continues to increase, as I thought it would. It now costs us 6.3% a year, on average, to borrow money, up from 5.84 % last year. As more debts "roll over," this number will increase until it eventually strangles us. We are trapped, unable to let go of our legacy obligations and unable to pay for them. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We know we will not produce anything like $6 billion from operations this year. Likewise, it is very unlikely we will ever generate regular, ongoing profits from operations in excess of our interest expenses. As a result, our accountants have forced us to "write down" the value of most of our tax losses, which had been on our books as an asset. We've told the public this doesn't really matter because the $37 billion charg e is a "noncash" expense. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It does matter though: It means we know we are unlikely to ever again record a profit. If we had any reasonable expectation of reaching profitability, we would not have been required to take the write-off. (You won't hear me explain this fact anywhere else...) [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Our core problem is simple enough to understand: We can't make enough money selling cars to pay for our debts, or even our interest payments. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This quarter, on a worldwide basis, we earned $122 million from our ongoing automotive operations, which we claim is a terrific accomplishment. In fact, we make a pitifully small amount of money from selling cars – even in the huge global boom we're now experiencing. You should remember: Our third-quarter revenues have never been bigger. Our rival, Toyota, which sells essentially the same number of vehicles, posted operating earnings of $11.2 billion! That's a record for Toyota and a 16% increase over last year. Investors ought to be seriously concerned about the future of the company when, even in a quarter of record global car sales, GM can't turn a profit.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Things are especially tough on us in the developed markets. We lost $248 million on our North American operations and another $90 million in Europe. This doesn’t include all of the corporate overhead, legacy costs, and most of our interest expense.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In total, we lost $2.5 billion – in cash – on our automotive operations in the quarter. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]As I've explained before, our only chance to avoid bankruptcy was to experience a big jump in the total number of cars sold and to cut expenses to the bone. That hasn't happened. Our total worldwide car production has actually fallen year over year. Likewise, our global market share continues to slip, bit by bit. In 1992, we made 30% of all the cars in the world. Today, we make 13.3% of all the cars in the world, down from 13.6% la st year. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]As our production falls, the scale of our business shrinks, making it harder and harder to earn a profit on every car sold. Production is very likely to continue to decline. Even after all of the plant closures and cutbacks, we are still operating below 90% of our current capacity.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I know... all of this seems like bad news. But actually, our automotive business is only slowly bleeding to death. The big hemorrhage is in mortgages...[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Our CFO was foolish enough to tell securities analysts that GMAC was "leaning away" from residential mortgages. Not exactly... Actually, GMAC lost $1.6 billion, mostly on subprime mortgages, in the last quarter. Our share of these losses totaled $803 million. We actually don't know how much more we will lose in this business going forward, but as our write-off of those tax assets shows, we certainly don't expect to make a ny money here for a long time.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What does all of this mean? It's not good news. Let me show you the cold, hard facts.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]According to our most up-to-date balance sheet, we have about $37 billion in cash and receivables. That sounds like a lot of money. But we have matching liabilities for all of these assets – and more. Over the next 12 months, $5 billion of our long-term debt will come due. We have current accounts payable of $30 billion and other accrued expenses that mature in the next year of $34 billion. All totaled, we owe $70 billion wit hin the next 12 months. (That's not including all of the rest of our long-term debt, pension liabilities, etc.)[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you have $34 billion in your checking account and you've got $70 billion worth of bills on your desk, you're not exactly "cash rich" are you?[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]How will we pay for these obligations? How will we come up with the money we need to finance our long-term debts? There aren't any easy answers. And all of the possible solutions will be extremely painful to existing shareholders. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The simple fact is, we're going bankrupt. It's only a matter of time before our accountants force us to insert "going concern" language into our filings. That means they won't approve our audit unless we admit publicly that we know we're heading for a bankruptcy filing. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]That won't be a good day to be a shareholder.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Best regards,[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Your Chairman,[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]General Motors of America
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WOW.......

should I say it?

naw, you know
 
for all of us in North America....actual internal "memo".....

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The simple fact is, we're going bankrupt. It's only a matter of time before our accountants force us to insert "going concern" language into our filings. That means they won't approve our audit unless we admit publicly that we know we're heading for a bankruptcy filing. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]That won't be a good day to be a shareholder.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Best regards,[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Your Chairman,[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]General Motors of America
[/FONT]
Mikey...really "real" ?

The above statement sounds very close to the truth being portrayed in public...at least to those who decide for themselves.
 
Oh, dear! So scary!!!

(Mikey, can you make your posts less wide? It takes a long time to read them.)
 
GM has no one to blame but themselves for the mess they are in...they will simply throw a bunch of borrowed money at Washington and get a big fat bailout with, guess what?, MORE BORROWED MONEY that our government will raise selling T-notes to foreign countries.

Want something really scary, Mikey...how about a $9trillion dollar national debt that is increasing by $500billion every year...

In Fiscal Year 2006, the U. S. Government spent $406 Billion of your money on interest payments* to the holders of the National Debt. Compare that to NASA at $15 Billion, Education at $61 Billion, and Department of Transportation at $56 Billion. So how do we fix this growing debt problem?

$406bil just on interest payments on a growing debt??? In 20 years it is estimated that ALL income tax receipts will be needed to pay interest on the debt.
 
Oh, dear! So scary!!!

(Mikey, can you make your posts less wide? It takes a long time to read them.)

Connie.....do you have your monitor screen resolution set to 800x600 or less??
I now have 2 wonderful FC members mad at me for posting "so wide", and a simple fix is to set your screen sizes to a higher resolution!!
It's odd that I have not come across this "problem"........
 
Mikey...really "real" ?

The above statement sounds very close to the truth being portrayed in public...at least to those who decide for themselves.

I subscribe to several monetary publications, and this one was apparently "quoted"...if you notice, the "undersigned" was NOT "undersigned".....
If even HALF of this is true, Detroit will be a "town" within 10 years.
Chrysler and GM both have made major news this past 2 weeks, and NONE of the news is positive...NONE!
 
Connie.....do you have your monitor screen resolution set to 800x600 or less??
I now have 2 wonderful FC members mad at me for posting "so wide", and a simple fix is to set your screen sizes to a higher resolution!!
It's odd that I have not come across this "problem"........

Now there you go, asking me a techie question, forcing me to expose my gross ignorance by telling you that I have not idea what my monitor screen resolution is set to, how to find out, how to change it, or even what it is. :pblush:

Geez.......... :help: :SUI:

:hug:
 
(Mikey, can you make your posts less wide? It takes a long time to read them.)

oh thank you Connie, I thought I was only one.

and mikey I am at 800x600 it doesn't make a difference
 
Maybe

GM has no one to blame but themselves for the mess they are in....


Actually , it's not really that GM is to blame, it's America and Americans that are to blame. WHY?

Because Americans want that ever and ever higher standard of living. There's not wrong with that by itself, but when that desire gets in the way of reality, then something has to give. The unions create pressure on GM to make ever higher profits, and then when those profits were made, they expected an ever and ever higher share of those profits. GM gave in to those demands and instead of creating cars that people wanted they created cars that made ever and ever larger amounts of profit. When the wage and benefit scale of the union worker got above the average American worker and the profit GM needed got in the way of building great cars, the mess they are in was created.

But the American consumer helped all this happen. Their attitude was that I want as much as I can get and don't worry about anyone or anything else. The American consumer will buy products made anywhere but America as long as it doesn't affect them. Today, everyone is up in arms over all those toy recalls of the toys made in China. But this problem was created because the American consumer has gotten in the habit of wanting more and more for less. It has now gotten to the point that even low cost manufacturers, like the Chinese can't even make a profit, so they cheat.

If there is a problem, it one of our own making. Today, people expect to turn on the switch and electricity is there. And people expect that electricity to be cheap. When the power companies say they need to build more plants to make electricity for future needs, too many times people fight those plans, based on the not in my backyard way of thinking. They all want the power, but they don't what the associated affects that come with it. People are concerned about pollution, but when the idea was put forth that they build wind farms to generate power off the coast of Cape Cod, it was shot down. Why the area is a perfect place to let wind make the most power possible. NOT in my backyard. But let the power go out and hear those same people scream.

As long as people refuse to take responsiblilty for their own actions, this mess will only grow.Politicans love to pander to the people, by saying the govenment will save them from everything. But the reality is that you can't save someone from themself.

My personal feeling is that when you read the story in the bible about Adam and Eve and the Garden of Paradise, the story was actually about our own earth. But at first God let man live on a earth that was perfect. After man's fall from grace, God let man exist on that same earth, but earth was no longer perfect. And man's punishment was that he would always strive to get back to that perfection. Today, we sue an airplane maker if one of them crashes, because we expect it to be perfect. We sue the car makers when those safety devices that were mandated failed. We expect perfection and there really is only One who is perfect, and He left this earth 2007 years ago. Yet in our own arrogance we feel we can create something only He can.

And so we love to blame someone, anyone and we have no problem doing so as long as we are not affected by that or by who we blame.
 
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Come on Mikey. You're better than that. It's not a real memo. It very well could be, though, if we elect Hillary.

You mean this is all a dress rehearsal???

Dude! I'm so relieved - what time does the real show start?


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SFox says: But the American consumer helped all this happen. Their attitude was that I want as much as I can get and don't worry about anyone or anything else. The American consumer will buy products made anywhere but America as long as it doesn't affect them. Today, everyone is up in arms over all those toy recalls of the toys made in China. But this problem was created because the American consumer has gotten in the habit of wanting more and more for less. It has now gotten to the point that even low cost manufacturers, like the Chinese can't even make a profit, so they cheat.
SFox, this is so true. And even worse, the Wal-mart wannabes of the world just send more and more work to the uncontrolled countries so they can try to undercut the Wally Worlds. People ask for cheap, they get cheap and usually much less quality. But that is what the American people want. And when it breaks or breaks down, they throw it in a landfill and go buy more.
 
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