When do you start greening for Valentines day? I had a gal tell me she was starting already. Seems kind of early to me. Also do you do the vases first and then the containers or just do bunches of greens and put in water?
When do you start greening for Valentines day
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You can start greening up to two weeks ahead if you use the proper techniques and anti-transpirants. There are several anti-transpirants available and out on the market. Some of the available brands are 'Chrysal Glory', 'Pixie Sparkle', 'Finishing Touch'
I knew of one shop......I always thought it would be a great timesaver. They process their roses right into vases. They take a bunch, split it into twelve stems bunches, underwater cut, use a hydration dipping solution, and put the roses into a vase of water.
Then they counted the number of vases of dozens and half dozens......set some buckes aside of roses for broken stems, arrangements, and the like.
I knew of one shop......I always thought it would be a great timesaver. They process their roses right into vases. They take a bunch, split it into twelve stems bunches, underwater cut, use a hydration dipping solution, and put the roses into a vase of water.
Then they counted the number of vases of dozens and half dozens......set some buckes aside of roses for broken stems, arrangements, and the like.
twiggy
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I'll be starting on the 6th and 7th with my mixed bouquets in containers. I also process my roses right into their vases-AWSOME- it saves so much time and confusion later.
So how do you do the rose thing and put them straight into vases? I don't ahve the room to do that kind of thing.
twiggy
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I don't have a lot of room either, I take my case of rose vases (12) and have the vases in the cooler with water ready to go- when the roses come in I put a doz in each vase (no greens, they need too much room) I will be setting aside greens in a different bucket.
master J
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I would think it depends on the greens, baker fern dries out too fast, I would not trust baker fern to hold up--- lemon leaf, myrtle, ruscis would be better for longevity...
I have never gotten caught up in the greens early idea, nor do I use plop & drop foliage pre mades, we just arrange the greens as we make them, no need for us to do it ahead of time???? JMO
I have never gotten caught up in the greens early idea, nor do I use plop & drop foliage pre mades, we just arrange the greens as we make them, no need for us to do it ahead of time???? JMO
twiggy
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I've had no problems with my greens drying out- I keep them all in the cooler, well watered and sometimes lightly covered with plastic (dry cleaning bags work great) and I've sprayed them with crowning glory.
I'm a small shop, and I do as much ahead of time as possible- that way I'm free to be out on the sales floor with my customers a little more.
I'm a small shop, and I do as much ahead of time as possible- that way I'm free to be out on the sales floor with my customers a little more.
This may be a good time to cover proper care and handling of roses.
This information is taken from Floralife. Floralife products are suggested.
Wiring and de-thorning roses - You should remove all thorns and leaves that are below the water level of the vase or container. Also, If proper care and handling is followed, including cutting underwater and the use of hydration solutions, floral preservatives, and if the roses are the quality that they should be, there is no real reason that you should need to wire the rose stems and head support.......UNLESS.....if the choice of wiring that rose will prevent the customer or recipient from complaining.....then you go right ahead and wire that rose.
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Specific Crop Treatments
Rose
Species: Rosa hybrida
Family: Rosaceae
Origin: Asia Minor
Grower Recommendations
Growers should treat roses with a hydration product, especially if roses
are shipped dry pack. For a majority of growers, use Floralife's
Hydraflor®/100 immediately after harvest and through grading. Treatment
time will vary with temperature and storage conditions. Please contact
Floralife to discuss your particular environment. When roses are shipped
through mass markets or other high ethylene conditions, use anti-ethylene
products, such as EthylBloc®. Always use one of Floralife's Fresh
Flower Foods when storing and/or shipping roses "wet"
(i.e., in solution).
Wholesaler/Retailer Recommendations
Buying Tips:
• Ask: Variety name. Different varieties have different flower qualities.
Learn the varieties that work best at your location.
• Avoid: Fully opened flowers; limp stems and/or soft flowers; damaged
or diseased foliage; flower heads with mold.
• Look for: Flowers with firm stems, foliage, and flowers.
Processing:
Unpack immediately. Remove foliage below water level. Recut stems.
Pretreatment:
Hydraflor®/100 pretreatment for 1/2 hour -1 hour at room temperature,
depending on variety. Hydraflor®/100 encourages water uptake and ensures
proper hydration, so roses quickly become firm and stems remain
free flowing. This is especially important for very dehydrated roses or
before a major rose holiday. Alternatively, treat with Floralife Quick Dip®
under normal conditions. This one second dip helps to increase water
uptake for all flowers. Using one of Floralife's hydration pretreatments can
help prevent bent neck in roses.
Holding Solution:
Use fresh flower food at recommended rate: Use Floralife® Crystal ClearTM,
Floralife® Professional or Clear Professional, or depending on water test
results, Floralife® Original, Special Blend Hard Water® or Special Blend
Pure Water®.
To have water tested, send a plastic quart bottle of your water to Floralife,
Inc., 751 Thunderbolt Drive, Walterboro, SC 29488, Attn. Laboratory.
Floralife, Inc.
Hold flowers at room temperature for 1-2 hours (2-4 if flowers are limp or
exhibiting bent neck) prior to storage in cooler or designing. As a finishing
touch to any floral design, spray Floralife FloralMist® over entire
project.
Reason/Solution:
Possibly harvested too early; had extended
period out of water; extended storage;
exposure to temperature or humidity extremes;
high microbe growth or incorrect use
of fresh flower food type or amount. Consult
your wholesaler or grower. Recutting stems
under water, using Hydraflor®/100 and one of
Floralife's Fresh Flower Foods may correct
the problem.
Can be due to extended period out of water;
exposure to high temperature or low humidity;
exposure to ethylene; high microbe growth
or incorrect use of fresh flower food type or
amount. Recut stems under water, use
Hydraflor®/100 and one of Floralife's Fresh
Flower Foods.
Can be due to production problems, fresh
flower food not matching water quality or not
used at proper concentration, or flowers in
pretreatment for extended period. Make sure
to use the correct Floralife blend and amount..
Place roses in a 34-38oF cooler with 80-90% humidity.
Cleaning:
Use Floralife Formula D.C.D.™ to clean buckets, vases, coolers etc. D.C.D.
is specifically formulated to kill microbes over an extended period.
Customer Satisfaction:
Always give a packet of a Floralife Brand Fresh Flower Food with your
rose arrangements. Five gram packets treat one pint of water. Ten gram
packets treat one quart of water. Use the larger packet with long stemmed
roses.
Troubleshooting:
Problem:
Buds fail to open
Premature bent neck
Frequent petal burning
High Ethylene Conditions:
Some rose varieties, if exposed to ethylene conditions, will benefit from an
anti-ethylene treatment. Ethylene sensitivity varies with rose variety. Test
your roses using the Floralife Apple Test to see if there are benefits from
an anti-ethylene product treatment. If benefit of treatment is seen, ask
your grower for anti-ethylene treated roses or treat yourself.
This information is taken from Floralife. Floralife products are suggested.
Wiring and de-thorning roses - You should remove all thorns and leaves that are below the water level of the vase or container. Also, If proper care and handling is followed, including cutting underwater and the use of hydration solutions, floral preservatives, and if the roses are the quality that they should be, there is no real reason that you should need to wire the rose stems and head support.......UNLESS.....if the choice of wiring that rose will prevent the customer or recipient from complaining.....then you go right ahead and wire that rose.
-------------------------------------------------
Specific Crop Treatments
Rose
Species: Rosa hybrida
Family: Rosaceae
Origin: Asia Minor
Grower Recommendations
Growers should treat roses with a hydration product, especially if roses
are shipped dry pack. For a majority of growers, use Floralife's
Hydraflor®/100 immediately after harvest and through grading. Treatment
time will vary with temperature and storage conditions. Please contact
Floralife to discuss your particular environment. When roses are shipped
through mass markets or other high ethylene conditions, use anti-ethylene
products, such as EthylBloc®. Always use one of Floralife's Fresh
Flower Foods when storing and/or shipping roses "wet"
(i.e., in solution).
Wholesaler/Retailer Recommendations
Buying Tips:
• Ask: Variety name. Different varieties have different flower qualities.
Learn the varieties that work best at your location.
• Avoid: Fully opened flowers; limp stems and/or soft flowers; damaged
or diseased foliage; flower heads with mold.
• Look for: Flowers with firm stems, foliage, and flowers.
Processing:
Unpack immediately. Remove foliage below water level. Recut stems.
Pretreatment:
Hydraflor®/100 pretreatment for 1/2 hour -1 hour at room temperature,
depending on variety. Hydraflor®/100 encourages water uptake and ensures
proper hydration, so roses quickly become firm and stems remain
free flowing. This is especially important for very dehydrated roses or
before a major rose holiday. Alternatively, treat with Floralife Quick Dip®
under normal conditions. This one second dip helps to increase water
uptake for all flowers. Using one of Floralife's hydration pretreatments can
help prevent bent neck in roses.
Holding Solution:
Use fresh flower food at recommended rate: Use Floralife® Crystal ClearTM,
Floralife® Professional or Clear Professional, or depending on water test
results, Floralife® Original, Special Blend Hard Water® or Special Blend
Pure Water®.
To have water tested, send a plastic quart bottle of your water to Floralife,
Inc., 751 Thunderbolt Drive, Walterboro, SC 29488, Attn. Laboratory.
Floralife, Inc.
Hold flowers at room temperature for 1-2 hours (2-4 if flowers are limp or
exhibiting bent neck) prior to storage in cooler or designing. As a finishing
touch to any floral design, spray Floralife FloralMist® over entire
project.
Reason/Solution:
Possibly harvested too early; had extended
period out of water; extended storage;
exposure to temperature or humidity extremes;
high microbe growth or incorrect use
of fresh flower food type or amount. Consult
your wholesaler or grower. Recutting stems
under water, using Hydraflor®/100 and one of
Floralife's Fresh Flower Foods may correct
the problem.
Can be due to extended period out of water;
exposure to high temperature or low humidity;
exposure to ethylene; high microbe growth
or incorrect use of fresh flower food type or
amount. Recut stems under water, use
Hydraflor®/100 and one of Floralife's Fresh
Flower Foods.
Can be due to production problems, fresh
flower food not matching water quality or not
used at proper concentration, or flowers in
pretreatment for extended period. Make sure
to use the correct Floralife blend and amount..
Storage:Place roses in a 34-38oF cooler with 80-90% humidity.
Cleaning:
Use Floralife Formula D.C.D.™ to clean buckets, vases, coolers etc. D.C.D.
is specifically formulated to kill microbes over an extended period.
Customer Satisfaction:
Always give a packet of a Floralife Brand Fresh Flower Food with your
rose arrangements. Five gram packets treat one pint of water. Ten gram
packets treat one quart of water. Use the larger packet with long stemmed
roses.
Troubleshooting:
Problem:
Buds fail to open
Premature bent neck
Frequent petal burning
High Ethylene Conditions:
Some rose varieties, if exposed to ethylene conditions, will benefit from an
anti-ethylene treatment. Ethylene sensitivity varies with rose variety. Test
your roses using the Floralife Apple Test to see if there are benefits from
an anti-ethylene product treatment. If benefit of treatment is seen, ask
your grower for anti-ethylene treated roses or treat yourself.
Space saving tip:
I did this last year and it helped alot.
I too have very little space. So I'd make my doz. roses arr. in a vase then sleeve them. Such a simple solution. ( I know - DUH!) You can pack more into your cooler and the roses don't get damaged.
I did this last year and it helped alot.
I too have very little space. So I'd make my doz. roses arr. in a vase then sleeve them. Such a simple solution. ( I know - DUH!) You can pack more into your cooler and the roses don't get damaged.
Connie
New Member
We'll start greening vases on the 5th or 6th. We pull sleeve intended for 6" plants up over the greened vase. We also pull that sleeve back up when the roses are added. Some drivers like to leave those sleeves on until just before delivery is made. They are great space savers.
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