800Flowers lowers projections?

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inferno63 said:
I sent a certified letter to cancel my membership with Bloomnet letting them know that I am done as of April 30, 2008. Told them I would not be filling or sending as of that date. I never heard anything from them and I have received 3 orders for May already.....I was curious so I checked. I rejected and turned off the software. I don't know about them, but I am done. They just need to accept the divorce and move onto the next florist. :hammer:
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The fact that you've received a 3 orders is a red flag. I'm sure that they don't have a case if they come after you since you sent a certified letter, but to avoid a future headache you may want to try and speak to someone and find out why you're still receiving orders.

I'll have to keep this in mind when I quit.
 
LJVF said:
Probably not the "sharpest" from your perspective, I will still be FTD and Teleflora. My stance on the subject is still formulating as we type (per wire services thread).
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I'm convinced you will find the answers you are looking for.

"Numbers don't lie, only the people using the numbers can lie."

I've enjoyed reading your well thought out posts. I've been WS free for 7 yrs now, because the numbers told me I was loosing the game.

My hope is you are one of the winners in the game.
 
More on this *game*...

Hey Boss--I'll put my 2 cents in (now that I've calmed down) We're also one of their "preferred " shops & also rank in the top 100 in the country & in the top XX in the **** (maybe I should be using past tense)
AFTER we ordered all the containers they cut my projections by 2/3rds-no explanation,no response to my many calls,no we're sorry,buts... I finally got my product orders canceled & a sort of explanation from my rep.
1). They recalculated the % to even it out for all the little shops they signed up.
2).They DO want their better shops to join their premier program (not offered yet in most areas)

(It would have been nice to have a heads up on this)

I think that doing this before MDAY is insane. The smaller shops won't be able to handle the volume & if they shut down-we won't have the product to pick up the slack...After a few months of this,I'm hoping someone with half a brain realizes this was a mistake.
In retrospect,we should have realized something was changing when they closed down all the LFCs
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And it just keeps getting wierder
 
we should have realized something was changing when they closed down all the LFCs
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lfc's??

what is that, 800's filling warehouse's in larger populated areas?



All 800 lfc's are now closed?


interesting......

sure am glad I did not get caught up in the bloomnet boondoggle!


Toto made me open my eyes.
 
There sort of like a priority florist that gets first dibs on all the orders for a certain delivery radius.

"The LFC network strategy, which has incorporated the establishment of "mini distribution centers" covering many of the top 50 markets in the country, significantly increases 1-800-FLOWERS.COM's same-day and next-day delivery capabilities for both floral gifts and a growing selection of non-floral gifts (e.g. gift baskets, plants, candy, plush, giftware). A majority of the LFC locations -- more than 60 in total -- are owned and operated by the independent members of the BloomNet florist network."

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It seems that hour by hour this whole thing is erupting into a full scale disaster.

I had the opportunity to convey my concerns, and displeasure to several very helpful and cooperative people today, amidst a 5 hour flurry of phone calls and messages asking ME WTF was going on.
I had no intelligent answers for anyone today as what I have learned is so off the charts. There is no sense to any of this.
" You don't register for a triathlon right after you had a leg cut off " SORRY !

My take on all of this may mean nothing. Maybe I'm just resistant to the "new" floral industry. Maybe I'm not cut out for it after all ! Hmmmmm, let me ponder this a bit !

Here it comes.................



Nope...............I pay you for membership, you in turn collect a fee to transfer orders to me because I pay you a hefty sum.
I buy containers, pay technology fees and all else associated, and then you take my substantial monies, every month, to subsidize your ventures into drop shipping, allow the rampant use of deceptive advertising by member shops, create alternative cloaked portals designed to sway orders from the paying members, and then send discounted orders that only drop shippers can fill.

The very substance and core of this industry that is victimized daily is the member florist, the cash cow, that you attract with rebates and incentives. Will it last ?
Heck no, it can't, and then all those that benefit from the constant screwing of the Mom and Pop shops will be in the same boat.
Sucks doesn't it, or did they neglect to mention that?
Exemption, yeah, OK !

Money is money, pride is something totally different. Can they co-exist in these times ?
Guess we'll have to wait and see while some drag their feet hoping that big brother will continue the cash flow.
The Internet, unregulated,will be the downfall of American, and International Society.


Those of us that caught on to big spaldings......Ooorahhhh..........those awaiting the continuance of the pot of gold..........Beware !

IMHO of course ! But..........what do I know ?
 
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Infinite said:
Let's think about this:

If a shop gets $100k in incoming in a year and gives up 30% to a WS, that's $30k spent to get orders where you don't own the customer info.

What if $1-2k was invested in building a nice website, $5-10k invested in still & video cameras, website marketing and product development? For less than half of the cost of those WS orders you can do some serious marketing!

But maybe it's just easier to pay a WS to do the marketing work?

Ryan
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How did they spend 30K?

I totally agree about the need and necessity and ROI of a quality website, but that's rather fuzzy math amigo.
 
bloomz said:
How did they spend 30K?

I totally agree about the need and necessity and ROI of a quality website, but that's rather fuzzy math amigo.
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Think that's fuzzy - you should see my back :)

Ryan
 
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