Blooms Today Offering 50% Off All Orders

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You know, I may have gotten a bit annoyed the one time I did open an envelope like that but since then, I just toss them in the shredder without opening them. Once burned....well, you know, and maybe a once burned flower purchaser would feel the same and just send a Hallmark e-card instead of flowers.
 
I think 90% is high, I'd say 75%. goldie, we live in a world amongst many gullible people that get swindled and burned everyday. If my percentage is true, 25% is quite a high number and if they collectively came together with a class action suit, I think they'd have a strong case. However, the actual dollar amount that each individual got burned for is probably too insignificant to spark any initiative and/or these same gullible people probably don't even realize they got burned anyways.

Darrell, I don't know about you, but I live in a world that everyone gets swindled a couple of times a day, myself included.

I am now eating Potato Chips. When I opened it, I found 90% of the volume was air. May I sue the company? :)
 
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No you shouldn't, but if you bought a new car and it didn't come with a transmission, then you probably should. Everything is relative.

Blooms Today is breaking the "rules" and shouldn't get away with it. Wrong is wrong. Will they continue to get away with it? Probably. It usually takes the collective efforts of the direct victims to build a case against them. I'm not holding my breath. So goldie, in a way you're right.
 
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Darrell, I don't know about you, but I live in a world that everyone gets swindled a couple of times a day, myself included.

I am now eating Potato Chips. When I opened it, I found 90% of the volume was air. May I sue the company? :)

no you can't sue because it tells you on the outside of the package what the weight of contents is.......... You read, you purchased. If you were shocked when you saw what you got but ate them anyway and then bought more??? You shouldn't be shocked the second time, third, or more.
 
no you can't sue because it tells you on the outside of the package what the weight of contents is.......... You read, you purchased. If you were shocked when you saw what you got but ate them anyway and then bought more??? You shouldn't be shocked the second time, third, or more.

I wasn't shocked. Just disappointed. 10 min later, I forgot all about it. Next time I go to my beloved super, I just pick up whatever is on sale. Yes, I'm a typical clueless consumer, a perfect prey of clever marketing.

If there was a forum of independent potato-chip makers (perhaps long extinct), the members would be screaming bloody murder about this unfair practice by big potato-chip makers.

They wouldn't understand why people like me don't realize they are just buying air, at the same time ignoring a bag full of REAL potato chips made by mom&pop shops. (Where is it anyway? How expensive are they?)

In the meantime, I, as a consumer, keep buying a bag full of air and a teeeeny bit of potato flakes. And life goes on.
 
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Darrell, I don't know about you, but I live in a world that everyone gets swindled a couple of times a day, myself included.

I am now eating Potato Chips. When I opened it, I found 90% of the volume was air. May I sue the company? :)

goldfish,

I may be wrong, often am, but I think the time is coming soon when the consumer becomes tired of being swindled.
 
goldfish,

I may be wrong, often am, but I think the time is coming soon when the consumer becomes tired of being swindled.

I believe the more and more we receive links to unsatisfied consumers regarding the wire services (and most are linked to here in this forum), the more we see consumers losing their love of WS and OG pages. Some are wising up......granted a few at a time, but for the first time there has been positive things said about "order from a local florist, google the town/city and call a local florist there".......
I believe the word is spreading......In My Most Humble ...dream
 
No you shouldn't, but if you bought a new car and it didn't come with a transmission, then you probably should. Everything is relative.

http://www.topsecretcarsecret.com/index.php?pv=1

:Ikeico

Blooms Today is breaking the "rules" and shouldn't get away with it. Wrong is wrong. Will they continue to get away with it? Probably. It usually takes the collective efforts of the direct victims to build a case against them. I'm not holding my breath. So goldie, in a way you're right.

Darrell, not all deceptive/unethical ads are actionable. I'm assuming that Blooms Today probably have consulted with lawyers regarding this "50% off" ad.

Although I'm not a lawyer, I don't see how you can make a case when consumers are given a choice to leave the site without paying a dime. A reasonable consumer can make a choice not to be fooled (see Section III of FTC policy statement on deception). They might be annoyed by the site, but the deception is not "material" unless a "reasonable consumer" (see FTC document for definition) is injured (monetary loss in this case).

Exception: Since the option to leave the site was given after a consumer placed all the personal info, IF Booms Today kept these info for their commercial purposes, then it could be illegal.

Despite all that, we could always make a case in the court of public opinions. I will do so in my blog, exposing what is going on their site.
 
Darrell, not all deceptive/unethical ads are actionable. I'm assuming that Blooms Today probably have consulted with lawyers regarding this "50% off" ad.

There are thousands of lawsuits against big companies claiming their ads are deceiving. I'm sure they consulted with their lawyers prior as well. Just because you take a lawyers advice, doesn't mean you're innocent.

Although I'm not a lawyer, I don't see how you can make a case when consumers are given a choice to leave the site without paying a dime. A reasonable consumer can make a choice not to be fooled (see Section III of FTC policy statement on deception). They might be annoyed by the site, but the deception is not "material" unless a "reasonable consumer" (see FTC document for definition) is injured (monetary loss in this case).

NY City filed and settled a lawsuit against Sprint/Nextel for deceptive misleading ads. Here are a few excerpts:

"ALL INCOMING CALLS ARE FREE " when in fact, a tiny, multi-line footnote at the bottom of the advertisement indicated "…an additional access charge of either $.10 per minute multiplied by the number of participants on the call…or a monthly flat fee," would be charged to the consumer if he or she signed up for the advertised calling plan.

"NATIONWIDE LONG DISTANCE INCLUDED. EVERY MINUTE, EVERY DAY " when in fact, a tiny, multi-line footnote at the bottom of the advertisement indicated a charge for long distance -- including the phrase "…an additional $0.25 per minute for long distance."

"Instant savings require in-store purchase and activation of a new line… " when a tiny footnote at the bottom of the advertisement stated "Requires in-store purchase and activation of two new lines of service on eligible plans." **In the same ad, Sprint advertised a "FREE" cell phone offer forcing consumers to look at the fine print to find that the offer required "…a two-year Sprint PCS Advantage Agreement."

"tiny footnote..." Sound familiar?

We're both playing armchair lawyers, you or I could be completely off base. I will concede that my example may not parallel Blooms Today :dunno: But it did only take me 15 seconds to find a lawsuit that I felt was similar.
 
I may be wrong, often am, but I think the time is coming soon when the consumer becomes tired of being swindled.
I agree...(not about the being wrong part) that there is a storm brewing.

In fact, look for another commentary from me today maybe "Class Warfare"...
 
We're both playing armchair lawyers, you or I could be completely off base. I will concede that my example may not parallel Blooms Today :dunno: But it did only take me 15 seconds to find a lawsuit that I felt was similar.

I know at least I am playing armchair lawyer, just because I like laws and logic that kind of thing. It's my hobby and am darn good at it. I have years of experience watching Judge Judy. So be careful.

I've read the case you cited. Here's the major difference between Sprint/Nextel case and Blooms Today, and why I think there's little chance that Blooms Today will get sued.

In the Sprint/Nextel case, consumers signed with them because they thought they were getting "Free" incoming calls, long-distance, etc. According to FTC definition, this satisfies the "materiality" requirement of deceptive ad. Quote -

Third, the representation, omission, or practice must be a "material" one. The basic question is whether the act or practice is likely to affect the consumer's conduct or decision with regard to a product or service. If so, the practice is material, and consumer injury is likely, because consumers are likely to have chosen differently but for the deception.

Let me emphasize here that customers of SPring/Nextel were NOT getting the "free" stuff promised in the ad.

In case for Blooms Today "50% off" ad, consumers will get 50% off (for most items, I should say). It's just not the way consumers might have thought.

In other words, Blooms Today ad is material only in the sense that it induced one to click on it (or make a phone call). At this point, no "injury" has occurred, because the consumer hasn't bought anything.

If a customer clicked on "No thanks - continue" button, no injury occurred. "Injury" occurs only when a customer clicked on "Sign me up" and didn't realize what he was doing.

In this case, there is a law dealing with clueless consumers: it's called "reasonable consumer" standard. Quote -

A company is not liable for every interpretation or action by a consumer. In an advertising context, this principle has been well-stated:

An advertiser cannot be charged with liability with respect to every conceivable misconception, however outlandish, to which his representations might be subject among the foolish or feeble-minded. Some people, because of ignorance or incomprehension, may be misled by even a scrupulously honest claim. Perhaps a few misguided souls believe, for example, that all "Danish pastry" is made in Denmark. Is it therefore an actionable deception to advertise "Danish pastry" when it is made in this country.? Of course not, A representation does not become "false and deceptive" merely because it will be unreasonably misunderstood by an insignificant and unrepresentative segment of the class of persons to whom the representation is addressed. Heinz W. Kirchner, 63 F.T.C. 1282, 1290 (1963).

So Darrell, what do you think a "reasonable consumer" would do if he saw "Sign me up" and "No thanks - continue" buttons? There will always be some idiots who click every button he sees without reading. Laws are unkind to them.
 
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goldie, I could respond with a bunch of rhetoric, but I'd be wasting both our time and FC's time so I won't do it. I will concede the argument.
 
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