Changes coming at Teleflora.com

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Paul,

What you just said is what many, many professional florists are thinking. Many of the rewards in this industry are being directed to operations (can't call them florists even though some are) that sell 'By Any Means Necessary.'

Over-promised?... keyword loaded?... deceptive? (as to actual business location and name, 'free' delivery, etc...) ... then you can get a $6 USD or more rebate!

The funny thing is, most of these companies don't buy containers, don't advertise in the co-ops or directory, don't use many of the other services offered by clearing houses...

If you opened a second shop, you'd have to pay an additional membership fee to the wire services. If you have 20 URL's (unique-named web sites) selling flowers, you'd still only pay your regular fee (for 1 shop.) Does this seem fair?

Mass marketers now sell 1/2 of all cut flowers in the U.S.. (which is not the wire service's fault.) OG's (I like to call the Order Brokers) sell a large chunk, too. No wonder many of us feel as you do, Paul, that we are working harder for less and aren't getting the kind of help we need from the companies that have traditionally been helpful to our businesses. :(

Let me add that I am not without hope that the current reward system will change. The path we're currently on leads to lots of senders and few fillers. There will be more and more 'Luc's' out there that can control distribution in their market areas.

Let's hope changes come sooner than later.
 
Look...we ARE our own worst enemies....

we "fill" for the "OG's", and then we complain about it!!
You want to control your marketplace??..DON'T accept orders from ANY source other than legitimate customers, or other REAL FLORISTS!!
We KNOW this won't happen...and my bandwagon, continues to grow.
Some of you, I'm sure, thought I was nuts, with some of the info I've been "feeding" you...c'mon, outta that "tunnel"
IF you wish to have a wire service, or MUST have a wire service, TF isn't it!!
Paul ALREADY is a member of a florists "co-op", and STILL he doesn't realize it, BECAUSE, he's been brainwashed into thinking that ONLY FTD or TF can provide it...much like the rest of you.
PM me, if you DON'T know what I'm talking about.....
Mike
 
Real Florists

Unfortunately, many 'real florists' have taken a cue from the SFO's and are now employing the same tactics so it's gotten harder and harder to figure out who to fill for. There's a shop from Idaho paying $3.03 per click on Overture for my town and several other 'real florists' with different URL's doing the same. All say "Serving my city name" in their ads.

Deceptive? Definitely. Good for the industry? Definitely not.
 
So the new tf.com is up and running. Can't say as I'm impressed. It is now harder to find a shop in a town unless that shop is paying for a website. The shops with out a website do not even have a phone number listed. I went in and did a fake order and it does'nt even give you a choice of florists until the very end,after you have given TF your entire personal history. On top of that, I know for a fact that none of the shops in our service area are carrying the TF TG codifieds and yet it lets you order them on the website. This is a recipe for customer complaints...
 
I told ya folks...

This was coming, but Noooo, nobody would listen....

Where did I hear those words "florist union" before...

OH yes,forgot....
 
It's a dream....

For those that remember the days of old...

Where is Sherman, and his "Way-way back" machine when ya need it ?
 
Re: I told ya folks...

Originally posted by BOSS
This was coming, but Noooo, nobody would listen....

We wuz listening, just none of us could DO anything about it. Just like the OTHER dotCon.

It's up and running and going to be cutting down on the number of orders we get, mark MY word. Both local AND outgoing.
 
Adding phone numbers for the PAYING members would be nice.

But there is a difference, Teleflora isn't taking a 20% cut and pocketing the service fee. That's what, a 30% difference. While either way the consumer goes if placing an order, is always directed to a flower shop. NOT a phone bank or a stream of annomous 1's and 0's.

Now I can utilize My site on a more personal basis for those I market to directly. Instead of duplicating their images.

I consider that the data base of florist avaliable in any given area would me more accurate for the consumer as well.
Considering the top 40 who show up for this area on the search engines are not even located here.
 
Really ???

Originally posted by flowerknife+us
But there is a difference, Teleflora isn't taking a 20% cut and pocketing the service fee. That's what, a 30% difference. While either way the consumer goes if placing an order, is always directed to a flower shop. NOT a phone bank or a stream of annomous 1's and 0's.

Not yet "eh.... :hammer:

Give 'em time....:corky

Wanna wager on this one ?? :wallhead:
 
Knife,
What happened to the days of being critical of them ripping us off? We used to bandwagon together against THE dotcon. Now there's a new one on the block, and they're after your business. There's a lot more to this than "it would be nice if they listed our phone numbers". It would be nice if they sent paying web members ALL the web orders!

They're right behind the other one, the path is note for note, can you really see this as any kind of good thing? I am glad for you that your TF web site has SO FAR worked well, but I BET that is about to end.
Having a TF site is no longer going to make you the florist of distinction in your town, or even on equal ground with lessor florists WITHOUT paid websites. Orders will go to ASB's rather than you if you don't have the selected codified, unless you want to buy them all and I KNOW you are smarter than that.

This scheme relies on fwoac's filling orders at prices chosen by them, with weighting toward what they make more money on.

I just don't understand your lack of skepticism, I remember the old days. Are we getting senile? :boggles:

didja ever consider this? Weighting systems to choose florists who are behind in their clearinghouse bills? Don't tell me that couldn't happen.
 
This new site is part of their long term plans.

1. Force more members to buy all coded products.

2. Also more members will have to pay for websites, so they too can get all their details listed such as phone numbers etc.

Both of these points bring in more money, it's just that simple.
 
Re: Really ???

Originally posted by BOSS
Not yet "eh.... :hammer:

Give 'em time....:corky

Wanna wager on this one ?? :wallhead:

I'll take that bet.
 
Ryan, as much as I wish it weren't true, I'm on for that bet also...time frame? Beats me, soon, $20?

I agree it's inevitable.
 
Originally posted by bloomz
Ryan, as much as I wish it weren't true, I'm on for that bet also...time frame? Beats me, soon, $20?

I agree it's inevitable.

Done - time frame 1 yr. We can renew each year, if you like, but I'm going to forget to collect if we go any longer than that.

You in, Boss?

Ryan
 
iffy on the TF new site

I'm not sure why the SRP on the Thanksgiving art bowl is listed lower by 5 cents? I went through the recipe and came out with $48.50 minimum price and would I sell it for that? NO.

I would hope that paying Members will get on the phone today and voice their concern over the non-phone number listings TF has created with the switch-a-roo.
What good is a Membership to a Vendor who thinks that Members do not need to be called for business? Even enterprise rent a car offers phone numbers for each business listed on the web.

Who is guarding the hen house now?
 
I was thinking....

Originally posted by Infinite
Done - time frame 1 yr. We can renew each year, if you like, but I'm going to forget to collect if we go any longer than that.

You in, Boss?

Ryan

The same time frame....I'm in for $20....

I hate to admit tho, that this is happening, in my talks with TF regionals, they told even me, that this would NEVER be done...

We'll see what they have to say today....the phone ringing already...not that they'll tell "me" the truth, but then again, I don;t think they'll tell you either....

:argue:
 
Re: I was thinking....

Originally posted by BOSS
I hate to admit tho, that this is happening, in my talks with TF regionals, they told even me, that this would NEVER be done...

We'll see what they have to say today....the phone ringing already...not that they'll tell "me" the truth, but then again, I don;t think they'll tell you either....

:argue:

Like they listen to the TF Regional's back in L.A. unless it's something they agree with. If they listened more to the Regional VP's and Field reps, there's a GREAT DEAL of things they wouldn't be doing right now.
 
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