Free WS Profit to Overhead Calculator

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CHR

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One of our staff members (Nid, take a bow) has created an Excel spread sheet to track monthy and/or annual profit to overhead (what's left over after direct fees and expenses as a result of wire service activity.)

You will need to download the form and insert the following data:

a) Enter the number of months of data you'll use on this specific report. Months can be entered individually or can be grouped together.

Incoming Orders

Obtain the information from your POS report (best) or WS statement.

b) Enter the quantity of orders received.
c) Enter total dollars of orders filled.

Variable Costs

d) Enter your cost of goods sold. The sheet defaults to 28%. Use your actual number by expressing it with a decimal point i.e. .35 for 35%. The US average has historically been reported to be 30% for fresh arrangements.
e) Enter the percentage of payroll from your shop's P&L. Be sure to include payroll taxes and benefits to establish your actual payroll cost. The sheet defaults to 25%. (Express numbers with a decimal point.)
f) Enter commissions and fees given. The sheet defualts to 27%. Enter the appropriate higher number if you have been hit with an 'unequal sending percentage.' (Express numbers in dollars.)
g) Enter your WS "receiving fee" per order. TF is $1.00. FTD is $.95.
h) Enter your cost per delivery in a dollar amount excluding driver salaries. (They are included in item e). Expenses include vehicle cost(per amortization schedule), maintainence and insurance. (Express numbers in dollars.)

Membership Expenses

i) Enter monthly dues. Note: This number will be divided in half with 50% moving over to the Outgoing Order column automatically. (Be sure to add any 'unequal sending fees' if applicable.)
j) Enter monthy technology interface fee. This number will be divided in half with 50% moving over to the Outgoing Order column automatically.
k) Enter monthy Wire Service Directory and ASB advertising. Do Not Include co-op or other consumer ads. Enter 0 if you do not use this type of advertising.

Outgoing Orders

l) Enter the quantity of orders sent.
m) Enter the gross amount of dollars transferred to other shops for fulfillment.
n) Enter commission earned. Defaults to 20%
o) Enter rebate level per order.
p) Enter your shop's outgoing relay service charge per order.


Look at the numbers:
Net Profit (Loss) Wire Svc will tell you how much of each type of order is left over to cover overhead (rent, utilities, advertising, insurance, office expenses, tec...) on a per-order basis - both incoming and outgoing.

To see the effect of a simple 1% lowering of COGS or payroll, reduce item d) or e) by 1.

Hope this exercise provides some insight into your store's finances. Note: The results will not be *exact* since there's no easy ways to enter purchase discounts or attribute advertising for outgoing orders.

Please post all comments and/or suggests for improvement of the form.

I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about flower shop financials and was somewhat surprised about our own store's numbers.
 

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Sorry - We noticed a small bug in the first uploaded version and have fixed it.

Just as a frame of reference, here's what we found when we ran our 2004 numbers.

Incoming orders:
Profit to overhead per order $6.43 (ugh)

Outgoing orders:
Profit to overhead per order $19.14
Note: We only charge a $3.95 service charge.

Our staffer Nid, a cost analyst in her previous life, advised that we stop filling orders because they're too much work with not enough profit for the efforts. She suggested we just send them out. :purpletea
 
Thanks a lot for your hard work Nid, I for one will take a look at this when I get home. :)


And CHR, you can still accepet incoming orders, just make sure you get 100%. :)
 
CHR said:
Incoming orders:
Profit to overhead per order $6.43 (ugh)

Outgoing orders:
Profit to overhead per order $19.14
Note: We only charge a $3.95 service charge.

I figured this out long ago via EXCEL. NID gives good advice. You should take it.

Judy
 
We once used spreadsheets to analyze and compare each wire service's performance for us. I think we had as many as four or five wire services to do each month at one time but all we had to do was plug the statement numbers from each service into their particular form. The rest was done for us. It gave us the month's and YTD numbers as soon as the latest numbers were entered.

But that was way way way back when. We kept them on file on computer so we could plot trends and averages for YTD and year to year. We could compare each months period with same period for previous years. We could also compare them to each other or analyze them as a whole.

We found these spreadsheets to be a very useful tool in dealing with wire services. They were also instrumental in reaching logical, and fact-based decisions concerning the continually decreasing lack of value and increase in costs of wire services to us long before that kind of knowledge became "politically correct".
 
Thanks for bumping this. I will have to wait to get back in the shop to plug numbers. My excel version here at home is '97.

joe
 
Thanks Cathy!

I used a sim. model/spread sheet I quickly made to to figure if keeping Bloomnet was worth while...nope. I ran the numbers for 12 consecutive months, month by month. In total agreement - you NEED to use a 12 month time frame because of all the holidays. You have to factor the big picture, and not leave anything out - your Excel sheet does just that. Yes, holidays such as V-day and Mom's day look very good for Bloomnet, but the other 10 months are NOT so good.

The HARD numbers don't lie! Have ran them for TEL - a little better, but not by much - basically breaking even. Here, the directory costs were shaved down (weeded out the dead wood) and that alone reduced costs. Have not done FTD yet, but it's on my To Do list...

I wish EVERYONE here would run these numbers...it's not rocket science!

- H.
 
Not rocket science but one needs to have accurate numbers handy. GIGO - garbage in, garbage out.

Hopefully shops have their own COGS and labor percentages to plug in - real numbers, not just estimates.

I actually need to run these again myself. In a year's time, the landscape has definitely changed.
 
PhillyPhlorist said:
The HARD numbers don't lie! Have ran them for TEL - a little better, but not by much - basically breaking even. Here, the directory costs were shaved down (weeded out the dead wood) and that alone reduced costs. Have not done FTD yet, but it's on my To Do list...

I wish EVERYONE here would run these numbers...it's not rocket science!

- H.
Not so much the florists here in our Community, as most of you know already (but it would be an eye opener for some) but florists in general should do this...

This would be a good form to download and share with our fellow neighbor florists....
 
Our crude numbers

CHR said:
Incoming orders:
Profit to overhead per order $6.43 (ugh)

I just did a quick/dirty calculation...

Mar: $0
Feb: $6
Jan: -(negative)$5
Dec: -(negative)$4
...

If I'm doing right, in this formula, the results would mostly depend on the fraction of incoming orders among total orders, the fraction which determines the (e) payroll entry. The more incoming relative to local orders, the less profit all the way to the negative territory.

Using the numbers available, the break-even point in our case appears to be 70-30 local-incoming ratio, according to this calculator.

I am actually using a formula, but have reached essentially the same conclusion. That is, with the current level of order volume, we won't become profitable until we reach 70-30 local-incoming ratio. No surprise here.

CHR said:
Outgoing orders:
Profit to overhead per order $19.14
Note: We only charge a $3.95 service charge.

This is about $17 in our case (we charge zero for wire-out).
 
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