Clay, I once gave a speech to a state FD convention. I spoke first wearing my 3 piece suit and complained about all the bad things florists did ie:rusty easels that stained my oriental rugs, delivery guys is short shorts, loud music in van etc. I then knelt behind the podium and stood up wearing an FTD hat & apron and spoke as a florist. I had so many FD come up after and say" I never thought about it that way". Since the days of Bud lipinski, we have not had an advocate. Some traing of the se up & coming FD in their school might help, as I find they are so "green" and have no idea what flowers do at a service. Unfortunately, it takes $ and no wire service is willing to step up and state assns are a thing of the past. I'm willng to help in any way we can to bring our message back to the forefront