Rose buttonholes going brown..

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hi guys.

Over the summer i have been using mainly Avalanche roses and do the buttonholes the night before and then putting them in the fridge. When i have come in, in the morning, some of the petals are brown and i have to either remove the offending petal or in some cases completely re do them as they have all looked really bad.

I am sure there is something really obvious that i am doing wrong but cant see the woods for the trees at the moment so wondered if anyone could give me any advice??

Cheers, Paula
 
why? i stopped using Vendella thinking it was that variety but i think it is more something i am doing.
 
I don't think so. White roses bruise. The best white roses I have ever found is eskimo, I never have any problems when I use eskimo. They look little when they come in but they open really nicely
 
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Paula
I have been using Gletjar. Really lovely and similar size to Avalanche. I have a feeling that Avalanche with them being so readily available I feel sometimes you get just the general stock even when ordered especially. I have notice the Avalanche recently haven't been as top quality as they should be.
 
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I have stopped getting the Avalanche in at the minute as the last 3 weeks orders have been discolouring really quickly, the quality has just not been there.
Today I got 60 1st grade Grand Prix 70 cm and also 80 2nd grade for cheapie bouquets. The 2nd grade have come in as a far superior sample with larger heads, longer stronger stems and far less damage than the 1st grade. Not a happy bunny.
 
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thanks johan, i will check out the prices of those.

Floral, which are you using instead of avalanche?? I love the size of the heads of avalanche to be honest...

Never have the problem with coloured bouquets but the trouble is a lot of brides want bloody white or ivory!!!
 
Paula
Gletsjar are about the same price as avalanche and are slightly scented. I bought a dutch rose book from my suppliers but if your doesn't have any you should be able to order the from the flowers council of holland website. Well worth the money as it gives you all the info including head size and if the rose is scented.
Jo
 
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Jo, i think that is a good idea. I do have dutch books but from years ago and not specific to roses. Thanks for that :)
 
Well,

I'll be stupid and name the obvious. Are you absolutely sure you are not bruising them while making them? You say the roses in the bouquets are fine and it's just the wearables. That would indicate that they are being damaged while being manipulated.

One thing that I do all of the time when dealing with white roses and white dendros is to lay a terry cloth towel down on my work-surface, and sometimes a piece of tissue paper on top of that. Then as I cut the flowers, they are laid gently on this to minimize bruising.
 
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I agree with Linda about handling too much, & love the idea of putting a cloth down to keep them from bruising. We spray our flowers, especially white & the light colored flowers with Crowing Glory. I helps to keep the whites white & helps to keep them from browing. We dulite it half & half with water or it seems to get too sticky. Try that & it may help.
 
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FANCIES said:
I agree with Linda about handling too much, & love the idea of putting a cloth down to keep them from bruising. We spray our flowers, especially white & the light colored flowers with Crowing Glory. I helps to keep the whites white & helps to keep them from browing. We dulite it half & half with water or it seems to get too sticky. Try that & it may help.
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You maybe putting to much Crowning glory on the flowers and that is why they are going sticky. I never spray the flowers directly. I spray into the air above the design and let the mist 'rain' onto the flowers so it is a fine mist. If you dilute it you will breakdown it's properties.

Paula I was just wondering, you said you put your buttonholes in the fridge. Is it a cooler or a proper fridge. Because if you use a proper fridge it can cause condensation on the flowers which could make them go off. I know if you make traditional buttonholes like me you don't ever hold the head so I very much doubt it's that.
 
It is a fridge jo but i dont have any trouble with any other designs i put in there overnight. I only use it for wired stuff overnight as i would hate to leave the flowers in humid conditions.

Ps, where do you get crowning glory? Is this the same as chyrsal spray in the white bottle??

If so, have you any tips for using it?
 
Yes it is the same as chrysals Glory spray, there is also one call finishing touch but I haven't used that yet. I personally don't have a fride or cooler and I just put my wedding work in the coolest place in the shop. We call it the coolroom, but its the loo. We have a large shelf in there and it never gets warm so the flowers stay lovely in there. The best way to use the sprays is how I said. Spray into the air and let the mist land onto your design. The spray stops evaporation of water from the petals and if your design is wired it will help keep it much fresher for longer. I spray all designs in oasis and all wedding work with it. The only thing I don't use it on is HT and BQ's.
 
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I might just turn the fridge right down then to number one from now on. I am actually considering getting a small flower cooler to be honest for next year but i know they are expensive and for the life of me dont know where the hell i would put one.
 
I have never had a problem with crowning glory being "sticky" I flat out drench the flowers in it and then let them dry. It's an anti transparent. It helps keep the moisture in the flowers sort of like high float for latex balloons but reversed. I have even dunked white roses or steph or any white flowers right into the crowning glory. And then I'll finish the whole design with another coat of crowning glory.
 
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Don't turn your fridge down to 1c you will kill your designs. 6c is the optimum temperature for the flowers. I have the same problem - I have no where to put a cooler as I have no outside walls near the flower area. The pipes would have to run from oneside of the shop to the other.
 
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Most frost free refrigerators take humidity out. Our floral coolers have special parts that put in high humidity for the flowers. Years ago I used an old non-floral cooler and put all my corsages and boutonnieres in plastic bags spritzed with water. (Still use Crowning Glory, but mist the inside of the corsage bag with water after leaving the corsage dry). Try trapping enough air in the bag so that it looks like a mini greenhouse. That might help. I'm with Linda....I always use terry cloth or a paper towel misted with water to lay my wired flowers on. Good luck!
 
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