Well it is what it is, and that is it, I may be the lone one here, but I thought SAF was for the florist, and According to that thing on the side of my cooler, It states " Your Growth is our Business" and those of you belong know the rest, So to me that means volumes at one time it did, and yes I should be more involved, but I haven't had the time to, and also that congressional days, Yes I could have went, but it was just so riduclous that when I saw what folks were paying for a hotel fee, When the wedding that I had just booked rooms for were paying way less than that, Why didn't someone call us, We could have got you a better deal, I see my local phone books with lots of crapola people who are not in my back yard or even front one at that, is anything being done about it, no, but I don't really care, do but don't, It is up to me to do something to get folks to call me, and use my services, When I was younger it was a big thing to be in SAF/FTD/TF. and all of the things that were in place, and I was very proud to say that I was, involved with it all, am I today, no not really because it really means nothing to anyone, these were branded things that customers looked for om your door way, That big ole sticker thing, and that meant something, as some of the old timers here know what I am talking about, and those shops are people that I still look up to this very day, and will continue to do so, So that has not changed, because of those other things, that is how I know them, and have learned to respect them, as far as these other things, As SAF yes they may have the big things on there site, So what, they pay for the site to be there, on the other hand it use to be just them, and real shops involved, now they just let anyone, and I hope one day that we all can go back to the respect of all that is long past, and what it meant to us, back in the day, and what it still means today, To do these things, with them, either you are for them or your not, that is it, and also keep in mind with out some of the things Think" Where would you be"/?? those things have gotton folks in your doors, made your life easy, and that of who you have become, the past way of thinking sometimes is a grand thing, but know it is time to move on and do what you gotta do, because they will and are not going to do it for you, and if everyone would just work togeather, and it will be a be thing called respect, and I for one, Repect each and everyone here, I may not always agree, but that is what life is about, I like to learn knew things everyday, That is what life is about if you don't learn something new today, then what will tommarrow bring, Instead of the BS of the stuff, we all need to come togeather as a commuinity of family and friends,colleagues to work togeather,. and life will be much simpler for each and everyone of us...Team work is a grand thing,