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Can someone please tell me why SAF allows order gathers to be members, when they aren't florists or deal in floral product of anykind? Maybe I need to rethink my membership.

just got a call from the Bestflorist.com group (member of SAF), and said are you a florist, she said no a call center and I said you mean an order gatherer, did look up the item and said sorry don't fill for order gatherers... wanted to take up her time because she was wasting mine... hehe
 
Call SAF and check & see if they really are members.

IIRC a few of the big OGs contribute .10/order to the Marketing fund (which payes for AboutFlowers.com and other consumer facing information.) Most local florists don't. :(

CheapFlowers.com used to have the SAF logo on their home page. I called SAF and was told 'no' they were not members. SAF dealt direct with them and the logo was gone shortly thereafter.
 
By Jove, I do beleive the BOSS man has got it !!!!!!
 
Why are florists having to alert SAF to these issues? I see no value in joining SAF if they have no standards. Do they really have no clue what is going on? Or is money from WS and dOG's just too hard to resist?

I think the best way to handle this is to just keep posting it here.

They will get wind of it very quickly.
 
Call SAF and check & see if they really are members.

IIRC a few of the big OGs contribute .10/order to the Marketing fund (which payes for AboutFlowers.com and other consumer facing information.) Most local florists don't. :(

CheapFlowers.com used to have the SAF logo on their home page. I called SAF and was told 'no' they were not members. SAF dealt direct with them and the logo was gone shortly thereafter.

OK... just gonna say it... If you are not an SAF member and not contributing to the SAF PR fund... do you really have the balls to ask why they are members? They are contributors and at $.10/order for an OG...that's a whole lot a marketing dollars.

I am curious... why should the OG's be excluded from SAF?

Isn't it better to work together to perhaps improve their deceptive practices? Or if nothing else voice your opinion in a workshop, forum, meeting or socially?

Or no... we can all just complain and @@@@@ on FC. That's better.

Refuse to join SAF and refuse to give to the PR fund until SAF kicks out every OG. How would SAF even propose to do that anyway. How exactly would one define an OG?
 
There are certainly stances SAF takes with which I do not agree.

I also see the benefit of many things they do to promote flowers and florists.

- They've been the clearinghouse for information on Fictitious Florists and have helped most every state association with data on the issue.

- They take on companies who dis florists in ads - vehemently - including ProFlowers.

- They help fund research about the benefits of flowers and I'm sure nearly everyone here has quoted those studies at one time or another.

Can they do better. Most Certainly.

Is there another organization out there who could come close to replacing the services they provide. No, not even close.
 
Me personally, I am of the opinion that SAF does more good for florists than it does harm. Gotta be in agreement with Cathy on this one.
 
Refuse to join SAF and refuse to give to the PR fund until SAF kicks out every OG. How would SAF even propose to do that anyway. How exactly would one define an OG?
For the record Heather, I am a member... but not for long. SAF is good at walking both sides of the fence.

I admit they do a lot of good things, but the practice of turning a blind eye to some of their members that are THE MOST deceptive marketers in the industry shows their lack of *true concern* for both mom and pop florist and consumer alike.

A few "goods" do not justify the allowed "wrongs". BY not attacking the deceptive practices they are condoning them.
 
Well it is what it is, and that is it, I may be the lone one here, but I thought SAF was for the florist, and According to that thing on the side of my cooler, It states " Your Growth is our Business" and those of you belong know the rest, So to me that means volumes at one time it did, and yes I should be more involved, but I haven't had the time to, and also that congressional days, Yes I could have went, but it was just so riduclous that when I saw what folks were paying for a hotel fee, When the wedding that I had just booked rooms for were paying way less than that, Why didn't someone call us, We could have got you a better deal, I see my local phone books with lots of crapola people who are not in my back yard or even front one at that, is anything being done about it, no, but I don't really care, do but don't, It is up to me to do something to get folks to call me, and use my services, When I was younger it was a big thing to be in SAF/FTD/TF. and all of the things that were in place, and I was very proud to say that I was, involved with it all, am I today, no not really because it really means nothing to anyone, these were branded things that customers looked for om your door way, That big ole sticker thing, and that meant something, as some of the old timers here know what I am talking about, and those shops are people that I still look up to this very day, and will continue to do so, So that has not changed, because of those other things, that is how I know them, and have learned to respect them, as far as these other things, As SAF yes they may have the big things on there site, So what, they pay for the site to be there, on the other hand it use to be just them, and real shops involved, now they just let anyone, and I hope one day that we all can go back to the respect of all that is long past, and what it meant to us, back in the day, and what it still means today, To do these things, with them, either you are for them or your not, that is it, and also keep in mind with out some of the things Think" Where would you be"/?? those things have gotton folks in your doors, made your life easy, and that of who you have become, the past way of thinking sometimes is a grand thing, but know it is time to move on and do what you gotta do, because they will and are not going to do it for you, and if everyone would just work togeather, and it will be a be thing called respect, and I for one, Repect each and everyone here, I may not always agree, but that is what life is about, I like to learn knew things everyday, That is what life is about if you don't learn something new today, then what will tommarrow bring, Instead of the BS of the stuff, we all need to come togeather as a commuinity of family and friends,colleagues to work togeather,. and life will be much simpler for each and everyone of us...Team work is a grand thing,
 
OK... just gonna say it... If you are not an SAF member and not contributing to the SAF PR fund... do you really have the balls to ask why they are members? They are contributors and at $.10/order for an OG...that's a whole lot a marketing dollars.

I am curious... why should the OG's be excluded from SAF?

Because they are NOT FLORIST

Just My thoughts :dunno: Golferdude
 
OK... just gonna say it... If you are not an SAF member and not contributing to the SAF PR fund... do you really have the balls to ask why they are members? They are contributors and at $.10/order for an OG...that's a whole lot a marketing dollars.

I am curious... why should the OG's be excluded from SAF?

Because they are NOT FLORIST

Just My thoughts :dunno: Golferdude

I do belong, and have for like 25 years plus plus,
 
If you check in their florist directory they show the OG in Miami... that's where I have the problem. I understand that they cover all sections of the floral industry but to consider an OG a florist and list them as such on their site is pretty rotten.
 
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