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dave

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just got an order from state florist network
anybody heard of them
they said they were also a shop called
800-usa4flowers.com
they faxed an order with a credit card and ask for 25%
any help is appreciated
 
USA4Flowers.com was just recently kicked out of Teleflora. I'm not suprised they are trying something to get their tens of thousands of orders out and still continue to decieve...

They were booted for deceptive practices...just an FYI
 
I'd round file that.
 
MY Guess

With all the "new names" like Florist State Network, Florist Team etc. popping up as more and more deceptive OG's are removed from the WS's I'd guess that some are having a difficult time getting orders out, and are coming up with names to tricks florists into accepting their orders even if they are on a credit card..

Due dilligence required!
 
Sher said:
Who owns that company and where are they located. I got a call from a florist wanting to do direct, said she was a member of Florists team..............know anything about that?
Not sure about the owner's name but the address is 9875 SE Federal Hwy. Hobe Sound, FL 33455 772-344-2739 . Metatag of USA4Flowers.com says 'State Florist Network". One of the 'Free Delivery' OG's as well.

Oh, and you're gonna love this....it's the same address as
At the Health & Healing Gardens
9875 SE Federal Hwy. ,
Hobe Sound, FL 33455
(US1--2 Miles North of Bridge Rd.) found on http://www.americaswellness.com/wellnessfair.html

Take a look at http://www.world-school.org/ .


I found these other floral URLs operated by them:
http://www.1800usa4flowers.com/
http://www.800usa4flowers.com/
http://www.usa4roses.com/
http://www.usa4plants.com/
http://www.1800vaflorist.com/
http://www.1800nd4florist.com/
http://www.1800nc4orders.com/
http://www.1800me2send.com/
http://www.usa4sympathy.com/
http://www.1800ariroses.com/
http://www.1800calflorist.com/
http://www.1800iowaflowers.com/
http://www.1800ks2order.com/
http://www.1800li2send.com/
http://www.1800mi4orders.com/
http://www.1800md2order.com/
http://www.1800kyflorist.com/
http://www.1800mn4florist.com/
http://www.1800ma4flowers.com/
http://www.1800nebflorist.com/
http://www.1800mo4flowers.com/
http://www.1800ladesigns.com/
http://www.1800wvflorist.com/
http://www.1800tennflorist.com/
http://www.1800nj4flowers.com/
http://www.1800nvfloral.com/
http://www.1800riflorist.com/
http://www.1800wiflowers.com/
http://www.1800nh4florist.com/
http://www.1888alflowers.com/
http://www.1888ms4flowers.com/
http://www.1800pennflowers.com/
http://www.1800ohioflowers.com/
http://www.1888de4flowers.com/
http://www.1800txflowers.com/
http://www.1888mtflowers.com/
http://www.international-florist.com/
 
Take a look at http://www.world-school.org/ .

Ya gotta love the big*** "donate here" button smack dap in the center of the page. Oh and the link to the divine whatever deeper love...............whoooweee.......snake oil sales maybe?????
Maybe we should all put that type of button on our web sites.who knows?????? Just kidding but that stuff and it's links are scary......

And the harmonius cooking stuff.....harmony to me is that they eat what I brought home in the bag and that the fries didn't get too cold on the way.......
 
Can you believe they EVER get an order with that butt ugly website?
It hasn't changed in over 5 years either.
 
Never do we accept "Direct Orders", Never do we give a "Discount", and Never do we "not charge sales tax". That usually ends those phone calls very quick!
 
I'm ashamed of this Industry

FlowerDiva said:
Never do we accept "Direct Orders", Never do we give a "Discount", and Never do we "not charge sales tax". That usually ends those phone call very quick!

Never do we accept "Direct Orders"???? Coming from an AIFD member were shaking our heads and wondering what is the problem? Oh that 3 to 4 dollars extra you need to charge for Sales Tax???? Gee maybe AIFD should include the Tax Rules in regards to Telegraphic Flower Orders in those TESTS so the rest of us won't have to be bothered by your NO answer when US ma and pa kettle shops call you up to take care of our customers order without any DISCOUNT service.

Whatever.....
 
Mike....quick question

You recently mentioned that you were leaving the floral industry and going back to automotive parts sales.......I think that is what I remember you saying. Out of curiosity, does that industry offer discounts, no tax sales, etc. Just curious if the floral industry is the only one that has business to business requests like this. How are the sales in your new career going?
Seems like you are here now more than you were before.....interesting input you offer. Always like to hear a different opinion............
 
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Blue Oyster Cult said:
Never do we accept "Direct Orders"???? Coming from an AIFD member were shaking our heads and wondering what is the problem? Oh that 3 to 4 dollars extra you need to charge for Sales Tax???? Gee maybe AIFD should include the Tax Rules in regards to Telegraphic Flower Orders in those TESTS so the rest of us won't have to be bothered by your NO answer when US ma and pa kettle shops call you up to take care of our customers order without any DISCOUNT service.

Whatever.....

Talk about taking what I said out of context! Wasn't the question about a Direct Order from an OG? And, what does being a member of AIFD have to do with this???

For your information, not that I think I should share any with you at this point, we have accounts set up in our system for a limited amount of legitimate shops with whom we do business with on a consistant basis and with whom we have made an agreement with to do business. They fill out their tax forms & we fill out ours. Everything above board & honest.

But as far as OG's trying to place DO's with us by circumventing the use a wire service, which, by the way, the OG mentioned earlier was kicked out of Teleflora for "Rules Violations"...... Forget it! Forgive me for not having a Walmart mentality when it comes to my business, but as far as I'm concerned the OG's can pay for their flowers just as our customers would. Uncle Sam - Tax legal! Why should we give the OG's any special treatment, I don't see them giving us any.
 
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FlowerDiva said:
Talk about taking what I said out of context! Wasn't the question about a Direct Order from an OG? And, what does being a member of AIFD have to do with this???

There ya go...you'll get used to it:rolleyes:

Good post Diva!!
 
How are you going to tell the difference??

OK, so you are now finding out that some of those nasty OG's that you had trouble figuring out who they were when they belonged to your WS are now on the outside and calling you direct. So how are you going to tell the difference from an OG and any other florist calling you direct? Both are now saying they can put payment on a CC.

All comments welcome.
 
Griff said:
OK, so you are now finding out that some of those nasty OG's that you had trouble figuring out who they were when they belonged to your WS are now on the outside and calling you direct. So how are you going to tell the difference from an OG and any other florist calling you direct? Both are now saying they can put payment on a CC.

All comments welcome.

It's risky, I admit. Most are dead giveaways when they ask for a steep discount and no tax. By the way, about 6 months ago, we checked out this tax exempt thing. Depending on where they are calling from, California laws are different & it should be checked out by your accountant as to different states & their laws.

But, IMO, if you start allowing discounts & tax exemptions, you're opening a can of worms. Best that other florist calling your shop with a cc, give the order just as a customer would. No special treatment. They can collect whatever they need to on their end to cover their expenses, without asking it of us.

That's just my thought...... so nobody jump on my case for it! You know who you are!

~ Diva
 
Griff said:
OK, so you are now finding out that some of those nasty OG's that you had trouble figuring out who they were when they belonged to your WS are now on the outside and calling you direct. So how are you going to tell the difference from an OG and any other florist calling you direct? Both are now saying they can put payment on a CC.

All comments welcome.

which is why our Order Gatherer Registry should have shop names not just URLs :hammer:
 
How do you tell the difference??

Kim, I'm not trying to pick on you as an individual, but your previous statements are a good reason why some of us take offense of the philosophy expressed on these boards.

To quote you, "if you start allowing discounts & tax exemptions, you are opening a can of worms. Best that other florists calling your shop with a CC, give the order just as a customer would with no special treatment."

The reason there is so much flack from posts like this is that many florists don't want to follow ANY rules other then the rules they make for themselves. First of all, the tax codes in Calif for florist to florist orders are no diffierent than YOUR tax code in New Mexico or in Illinois or Michigan or Florida or New Youk or Arizona or any the US states that have a sales tax. Each and every one of these states has a portion of their code dedicated to florist to florist sending of orders and in ALL cases, the SENDING florist is ALWAYS responsible for collection and payment of sales tax and NOT the receiving florist. You have either been misinformed or lied to if anyone has led you to believe differently. In fact your state tax code relieves you of sales tax responsibility once you realize you are dealing with another florist because this kind of transaction is NOT tax exempt!

As for the discount situation, I think that is up entirely to the receiving florist. What is so silly about this whole subject is if a florist calls another florist and gives them a six digit number identifing themselves as another florist <on your team> florists are willing to extend 27-28 percent discount with no questions asked and when another florists calls and gives you a 8 digit number <certificate of registration in Ill> florists are now talking about discounts, exemptions and overcharging cc to add sales tax. In fact many florists are now committing fraud by overcharging the CC. Can you imagine what would happen if the WS started allowing the receiving florists to automatically charge whatever they wanted to on incoming orders and the sending florist wouldn't find out about it until the statement arrived?
 
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