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And it's pretty easy cuz the other florists in our area are asleep at the wheel as usual.

We totally get the Lion's (+ the Tiger's) share of intenet biz coming into our city.

Bloomz - Let's hope our fellow florists stay asleep at the wheel...

But...I am curious to know how you know you get the Lions and Tigers and Bears (oh my!) share of the internet business. You can't possibly know that. Unless you have a big secret you're not sharing. jenny
 
It's been quite easy. We simply got into the game way earlier than anyone else in town, make that the state. (1993-4)

None of them put any time money or energy into the internet cuz it didn't pay off for them.

Put in none or very minimal of the above and guess what you get back?
 
Found another article on this tonight

Bump this - this is one of the better positive things we've stumbled across on flowerchat. Building each other up seems to me to be so much more important than working to tear the competition down.:thumbsup

I'm helping 2yla prepare to suggest this to her local business group she heavily participates in, and found this tonight.

I've been doing this (reviewing others, and not just while I was on crutches last summer) - and we're heavily smoking the other florists in our area.

Have you?:dunno:

I'm also preparing a cut and paste I can send to consumers who send us glowing email compliments, which we get quite regularly.

Consumers rely heavily on online reviews when purchasing products

Consumer reviews play a major role in the decision to purchase products or services, according to Opinion Research Corp., an infoGroup company.
In a recent survey, 61% of respondents say they consult online reviews, blogs and other sources of online feedback before purchasing a new product or service, with search engines being the preferred method of conducting the research, Opinion Research says. 83% of those responding indicated that online product evaluations and reviews have at least some level of influence on their purchasing decisions.

In addition, 70% of consumers responding to the survey say they seek out information online for a particular brand of goods and services. Travel, recreation and leisure top the list at 82%, followed by electronic goods (80%), household products and services (66%), clothing (55%), automotive (55%), personal care (40%) and food (24%).

Businesses today exist in an era in which itç—´ nearly impossible to escape the likelihood of being evaluated, says Linda Shea, senior vice president and global managing director of customer strategies for Opinion Research. Companies must be extremely mindful of the power of proliferating online forums and their ability to shape consumer's perceptions about brands. Even a single negative review, when posted in a very public forum, can have a significant impact on a prospective buyer's decision to purchase.

The survey also found that 38% of consumers first consult online product or service reviews when they began their shopping research and 27% consult the Internet when they are trying to decide between two or three products or services. Another 21% consult reviews at the narrowing- down stage to confirm that they are buying the right product or service.

Providers need to insert themselves in those critical purchase decision-making stages in order to drive preference and selection for their brands,
Shea says.
Opinion Research surveyed 736 consumers from June 6-9 for the study
 
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I'm helping 2yla prepare to suggest this to her local business group she heavily participates in, and found this tonight.
User reviews can be very helpful, but make sure her group understands that some of the review sites are now deleting profiles and reviews when they perceive review swapping.

From sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/03/BUFU11IP6J.DTL (cut & paste the link to read the original article)

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Merchants angry over getting yanked by Yelp


Ellen Lee,Anastasia Ustinova, Chronicle Staff Writers
Friday, July 4, 2008

Four years ago, Geri Rebstock started using Yelp, a popular site for consumers to review local businesses and services. She critiqued her favorite veterinarian, a neighborhood print shop and an acupuncturist who took care of her bad wrist.

But Rebstock's reviews and personal account vanished from the site recently after Yelp accused Rebstock, who owns a small interior decorating business called Geraldine Rebstock Interior Design, of trading glowing reviews with other business owners.

"It's Orwellian," Rebstock said. "I had reviews of my business from several years back and they kind of erased my identity.

"It's frustrating that they are being mean-spirited," she said. "Our business pages still appear, but one another's reviews have been removed."

Last week, Yelp purged an undisclosed number of accounts after finding that the business owners had swapped positive reviews with other business owners. Yelp also regularly deletes reviews it believes are phony. The move sparked an outcry among local businesses, and has even led some entrepreneurs to band together with thoughts of a class-action lawsuit. Their reasoning is, if they legitimately spend their money and patronize a service, why can't they review it?

The outrage underscores Yelp's increasing influence as more people browse the site before deciding where to dine, shop and spend their time and money. And it highlights the balance the growing startup is trying to strike as it continues to nurture its community while also meeting the needs of local businesses and earning money from advertising.

Founded in 2004 in San Francisco, Yelp has expanded to 18 metropolitan areas and now reaches more than 11.5 million people a month. More than 3 million reviews appear on the site. At its core is a community of everyday consumers guiding each other to the best a region has to offer, from the hippest bar to the most well-stocked baby store.

Its growing popularity, however, means that some users have tried to game the system, much as some people have sought to use certain tactics to try to get their site to the top of a Google search result. It's a practice that Yelp continues to try to stamp out, said Yelp CEO Jeremy Stoppelman.

"When we see local businesses trying to exchange reviews, quid pro quo, it violates the spirit of Yelp," he said. "When a reader comes to Yelp looking to patronize a business and spend their hard-earned money, the reviews should be from customers who have found that business on their own volition."

Used for networking

Some business owners feel differently. Joyce Van Horn, an astrologer in San Francisco at Partners in Healing, said that through a networking group, she met and tried a personal trainer and an acupuncturist. Likewise, others in the group have discovered and used her services as an astrologer. She said she didn't realize that practice broke Yelp rules.

"The fact of the matter is every person I reviewed, I had used their services and every person who reviewed me used my services," she said.

In some cases, she added, she even wrote a negative review or didn't post one at all because she had a bad experience. "I don't think that's gaming at all," she said. "I believe in ethics."

On Friday, Van Horn received a message that her personal account - and her 32 reviews - had been deleted. She also found that some of the reviews for her business had been removed.

Adryenn Ashley, a publicity and marketing specialist from Mill Valley whose account was also deleted, decided to fight back. On Wednesday she created Yelp-Sucks.com and YelpLawsuit.com, asking people "yanked by Yelp" to sign up for a class-action suit. Less than 24 hours later, she had 25 signatures. Ashley said she understands Yelp's intent to serve its community, but felt she had been caught up as collateral damage.

"The class-action suit is not about the money," Ashley said. "I want an apology and I want my URL back."

Stoppelman said Yelp carefully made the decision to delete the selected accounts. The move was necessary to maintain Yelp's integrity, Stoppelman said. "If you're the consumer and about to spend $90 on a massage, are those the reviews you want to read?" he said. "Trust is our oxygen."

Becoming widespread

Yelp isn't the only site that faces this dilemma. More consumers are turning to each other for reviews and feedback, from travel sites such as TripAdvisor to retailer Amazon.com.

"This happens in Wikipedia, in online forums, on any social site where money is involved," said Jeremiah Owyang, an analyst for Forrester Research. If Yelp doesn't enforce its rules, "it will lose credibility and trust and less people will use it."
Yelp also routinely removes reviews it believes are spam. Sometimes that means legitimate posts are also deleted.

Lawyers with Goldstein, Gellman, Melbostad, Gibson & Harris LLP said they were dismayed to find that Yelp flagged most of the positive reviews of their law firm as untrustworthy, because they were written by first-time users. As a result, the Web site blocked 11 positive reviews, leaving a couple of unflattering comments.

"Our complaint is that the average person looking at it would not know about it," said David Gellman, managing partner at the firm. "Our business is very reputation-based, and we know more and more that our clients find us on the Internet."

That's not to say that businesses are powerless. In late April, Yelp introduced "Yelp for Business Owners," a free service that lets owners claim their business on the site, be part of the Yelp community and reach out to their customers. In some cases, businesses have used the opportunity to thank their customers; others have reached out to critics for a second chance and have been rewarded for it.

"If you are a great local business, you will do great on Yelp," Stoppelman said. "Consumers win and businesses win. That's the way it should be."

The original idea for this thread was to get florists to say something nice about good florists with whom they've worked.

Do Not: Review your own site
Do Not: Review your competitors
Do Not: Request reviews of your own site in this forum. Those posts will be deleted on sight.
Do Not: Quickly lash out in anger at a florist that blew an order. We all make mistakes from time to time so the more important story is how a problem is/was handled. Before you type, ask yourself if a bit of patience would serve you, the other florist and consumers better.
Do: Remember that all your reviews will be displayed under your profile on each site so if you write the same thing over & over, it will appear 'canned'. Your login may also indicate your real identity so be careful about writing negative stuff. You know what they say about paybacks...
Effect: Raised awareness of good local florists. A small inoculation against scummy blackhat reviewers. Good Karma. :)
So please do write those reviews, but make sure you write about other companies besides florists, and make sure your reviews aren't perceived as being part of a 'group'.
 
I guess its time to do some reviews about my favorite fast food.

Taco Bell baby!!

Taco Smell? Taco Hell? JK, I like it too, but have you ever seen the way it's stored and cooked? :eek: It's a brick of dehydrated meat and they add water to it.
 
User reviews can be very helpful, but make sure her group understands that some of the review sites are now deleting profiles and reviews when they perceive review swapping.

From sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/03/BUFU11IP6J.DTL (cut & paste the link to read the original article)

The original idea for this thread was to get florists to say something nice about good florists with whom they've worked.



So please do write those reviews, but make sure you write about other companies besides florists, and make sure your reviews aren't perceived as being part of a 'group'.

This is why Twila had the idea to expand it to her business group - they are a group of businesses that all try to support each other.

Add to that - I never liked yelp anyway and had never even found it before Cathy pointed me to it, so I don't think it is that popular at least in our area.

But thanks for the info! It is something to watch out for.
 
We brainstorming some more on this - and my feeling is, trying to get into a consumer's head, that reviews should not appear to be written by businesses reviewing other businesses.

I have I think 4 or 5 different logins I use to do these.

And all of them I have done for fellow florists have been written as if I had bought flowers from them (I did, thru a wire service, but that is a technicality)

They are consumer reviews, (supposedly) written by consumers for consumers.

Twila thinks it would give more credence if it was mentioned that one was another business owner, but I don't agree.

I could be wrong - I was that one time.:spin

How about some help brainstorming on this?

Especially given what Cathy posted above, make it more mission critical how the review appears in the mind of the consumer reading it.

Open to discussion if anyone's still interested.
 
In the long run, IMO it's better to just say you're a florist. All reviews on a single site can be seen by clicking on your profile so writing 'as a consumer' will look a bit strange.

On Google, my profile says:

Professional Florist from Anaheim, CA
An unapologetic enthusiast for quality local florists, innovative floral design and unique website content.
Makes sense I would review a bunch of florists, and I hope the bit about my background lends credibility to my words.
 
As Bloomz stated...I am President of a local networking Group in my area. This week I plan to present this idea to the group. We have approx 60 different businesses represented and I think it is a great opportunity to help one onother in our efforts to build our businesses. We meet every Wed. morning for the purpose of giving one another "Leads and Testimonials". What better way to give testimonials in a much broader form?

I have gleaned some very helpful information so far...especially that we should not make comment that the leads are comming from a "networking group". After reading the excerpt from "Yelp", I wonder if all search engines are as strict or hyper-critical as they are. If so, I'll just advise everyone to avoid that site altogether--am I wrong?

I totally understand where JB is coming from when he makes the statement that these reviews need/should come from the standpoint of a consumer and not a business person in our type of business. I'm not sure that I am convinced that it has validity when you are dealing with the mix of local-intimate (for lack of a better word) businesses. These are businesses like: CPR training, Computer Repair, Photographer, Funeral Home, Computer Cartridge Replacements, Hair & Nail Salon, Office Equiptment, Ladies Fitness, Carpet Cleaning, etc.

I just felt that since they were indeed local and non reaching (such as wire services)...having my name associated with the Review might add some credibility. I am highly respected and known in the community...and therefore it might add some weight to the review. However, I too, have been wrong before. So could you please give me your opinions on this matter? thanks
 
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I can't believe that nobody has opinions on this.
YOU GUYS HAVE NO OPINIONS? What is happening? I must be on the wrong forum!
 
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Let me give it my best shot -

Using your real name and identity, there are pluses and minuses. On the plus side, you'll show engagement with the community and make some fellow business owners very happy with your positive reviews. On the minus side, you'll be far less likely to write negative or even neutral reviews since the reviewees will know your identity. Worse yet, they could 'pay you back' if they don't like what you say.

You can write your reviews as a consumer since presumably you've actually purchased from the businesses you're reviewing, but disclose you are a business owner, too.

HTH
 
Have to agree with Cathy, Twila.

If I have a bad experience with another local business, my style is to privately meet or call them, and explain what I just experienced. I would not negative review them, unless them committed some very henious act.

I would, however, publicly praise the good works of another fellow business service -- lending my name, for accountability.
The average consumer, however, probably would not find this praise without suspicion.

HTH!

Cheryl
 
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Twila..I've ALWAYS been a little "hesitant" to offering up "reviews" on other businesses and people, if 1)I've had little interaction with them, and 2) it's unlikely that online review is as gratifying as it sounds....
I'm SURE you've "experienced" the dramatic "shifts" in peoples candor when they are happy, and when they are sad.....ONE day they could call you a ball of cacca, and on the next day, "apologize" because they were NOT themselves, the day before.
The damage is DONE...regardless!!
Next point....I very much "refrain" from boasting about my "positive" experiences, with ANY particular vendor, and "offer" up several suggestions as to whom they could turn to for a particular service.....a few times, I've been lambasted for "suggesting" a particular company, or person, and the party to whom I MADE the suggestion to, had a lousy experience with them, and I'M the ONE, that looks bad!!
I refrain from offering up "pat on the back", or "giddy up" glowing reports on anybody....ONLY THOSE posts that "belittle" your services, hold the MOST weight, when someone is reviewing you for possible transactions, and MOST people can identify "baited reviewing"...MOST!
Performance charts, for me, are return visits,and multiple online purchasing successes catch MY attention....buyers would NOT frequent abusive businesses, or their staff/ownership, and I've PERSONALLY been involved with booting out more than one vendor on EBAY, for lousy online performances, or, overpromising perceived results.
Networking groups are NOTORIOUS for supporting you "on the surface" THEN, not so much, when you are NOT in their faces...it happens more than you realize.
I WOULD CERTAINLY commend a purchase, or review, from MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, and CONSISTENTLY sign off, by saying something like " they MAY be this good to you as well"!!
 
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