We did not have Xboxes and survived

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Some of your thoughts I agree with Vicki , but now adays there are few stay at home moms,( or dads) due the need for a 2 income family just to survive, and with some many 1 parent families , a lot of parents don't have the time to express views and give then needed guidance that all kids should have. Some kids spent more time with a tv as their guidinglight, than with actual human contact.
 
Victoria said:
Many of the children I see aren't over-protected... they have no protection at all. This world is a tough place for kids these days. From my perspective, the self-absorbed "parents" (loosely used term) have shirked their responsibilities by either buying off their kids or ignoring them altogether.

Kids learn from example... sometimes the examples they see really suck.

V

Oh God......how truer words could NOT describe what we are witnessing from our present generation of misfits (watch and learn from screwed up so called "parents")
Had the cops here again last night...one of our tenants is a natural idiot, that "attracts" likewise, and his kids are suffering terribly, and especially his oldest son, whom I would describe as a "repressed overachiever" who is finally just throwing in the towel, and becoming uncontrollable...the nicest kid I've met in a long time!!
 
playing on construction sites

sunny said:
Yep, construction also. New subdivision with houses.....large ground compactor/roller got started by "accident"....ran into a stud only house by "accident".... I got to say that Runkel and I worked our ### reframing that wall late into the night.....

LOL makes me think of the time when I was too young ( probably 6 ) tagging along with some older kids to a construction site and getting into some of the "empty" roofing tar buckets. God when I got home I don't know which was worse the spanking for being where I wasn't supposed to or having all of that tar scrubbed off. :hammer: sure brought back a smile though. Thanks for all the memories
 
sunny said:
Some of your thoughts I agree with Vicki , but now adays there are few stay at home moms,( or dads) due the need for a 2 income family just to survive, and with some many 1 parent families , a lot of parents don't have the time to express views and give then needed guidance that all kids should have. Some kids spent more time with a tv as their guidinglight, than with actual human contact.


I wasn't a stay at home mom either Brian... couldn't afford it. But, my child had stability and care and the knowledge that I would love her and protect her always.

I went to visit her at her place of work last night. She was cashing out a customer... I wasn't privy to the full conversation between them, but she did say, so I could hear, "That's my Mom over there... she never, ever called me a fool, even though I may have been one... she always supported me."

She has never been a fool... always a gift and she has known that ever since her first moment of understanding.

There are so many out there who don't know just how valuable they are, because no one ever tells them or shows them... or hugs them.

V
 
virginia_Bob said:
LOL makes me think of the time when I was too young ( probably 6 ) tagging along with some older kids to a construction site and getting into some of the "empty" roofing tar buckets. God when I got home I don't know which was worse the spanking for being where I wasn't supposed to or having all of that tar scrubbed off. :hammer: sure brought back a smile though. Thanks for all the memories


:) I remember my mother pulling me home by the ear because I was playing at a dreaded construction site....

I never did that to my child, but I remember her being brought home in the back of a police car because she and her little friend had crawled under the fence at the Co-op. They wanted to play in the lumber forts. She was three... I was terrified because I couldn't find her. Thank God for small towns and OPP officers who know everyone. I'll never forget that wee girl's face, huge blue eyes brimming with tears, the white blonde hair full of wood chips, peering out at me through the screened divider in the car... the officer trying so hard not to break in to gales of laughter as he tried to explain the gravity of their folly.

We all have stories to tell... so do our precious children. :)

V
 
Victoria said:
:) We all have stories to tell... so do our precious children. :) V

Yep, I agree with that......but based on my "outdoor" experiences as a kid and comparing them to my "indoor" kids experiences......I have to feel that we have more stories to tell (not to be taken as a brag, just my opinion).
 
It is indeed very unfortunate that many familys must have two paychecks to survive these days. I know that when my children were young (20 years ago) I had a very high paying job in NYC and had to make the very difficult decission to cut back on our lifestyle choices dramaticly in order to become a stay at home mom. I had the privilege of being with my kids and raising 3 foster children for 10 years- never regreted a moment the smaller home etc.
Because I was home,the kids had a interesting childhood,an adult who's primary responsibility to guide them and love them, lots of animals and food grown fresh by US(!) and I have a wonderful relationship with 2 delightful young men! What a great investment!

I feel so sorry for the folks who really want to be with their children and just can not because of financial pressures. It is a loss to everyone, children, parents and the country as a whole. On the other had as Victoria said there are some "parents" who are so selfish and self-centered the kids are better off in day care. What a crazy world!
 
LORRIE said:
... had to make the very difficult decission to cut back on our lifestyle choices dramaticly in order to ... [have] the privilege of being with my kids and raising 3 foster children for 10 years

You nailed it - completely. It often IS a choice between lifestyle & parenting. I'm not talking about families that need two cheques to get food, obviously, but two cheques to get the Beamer instead of the Saturn ... that's different, IMHO. Janis left a corporate position at Maple Leaf Foods in their International office to work full time at mommy-hood. That extra $$ would be have a big difference for us, sure, but her being home makes all the difference for Wesley AND Janis & I.

No regrets, here!
 
So True....

Victoria said:
Many of the children I see aren't over-protected... they have no protection at all. This world is a tough place for kids these days. From my perspective, the self-absorbed "parents" (loosely used term) have shirked their responsibilities by either buying off their kids or ignoring them altogether.

Kids learn from example... sometimes the examples they see really suck.

V

I totally agree Victoria! As a former foster parent, I was blessed to have the chance to love a child that wasn't really sure what was right or wrong, let alone what it means to be a kid. At 2 years old, the TV had been his babysitter and Mom had left him with a stranger for weeks:(

Kids need structure, consequences and love!

Letting go was the hardest part, but I wouldnt trade it for a minute. After 2 years in my care, His Father stepped up and really pulled it together to finally be a "Dad". Mom is still not in the picture, she has a serious drug problem. :( I hope someday for his sake, that she can get clean and again be a part of his life. In a conversation with his Dad about what cities everyone in the family had been born, he proudly boasted he was born at my house :) Telling from the mouth of a 4 year old....

The world really is a different place today!
 
Infinite said:
You nailed it - completely. It often IS a choice between lifestyle & parenting. I'm not talking about families that need two cheques to get food, obviously, but two cheques to get the Beamer instead of the Saturn ... that's different, IMHO. Janis left a corporate position at Maple Leaf Foods in their International office to work full time at mommy-hood. That extra $$ would be have a big difference for us, sure, but her being home makes all the difference for Wesley AND Janis & I.

No regrets, here!

My wife also left the corporate world to become a full-time Mom, the MOST IMPORTANT JOB ON OUR PLANET. Those days of two incomes coming into the household sure were nice but they do not compare to the level of care and love now afforded our child. I wish more mothers could do what Janis and my wife are doing - the benefits are so worth us watching our pennies!
 
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