Well I'm gonna say it...

[Connie]

Good grief! I've been reading this one thread for almost an hour, and only read through page 11, even missed the controversial pictures. Now I must stop and get to the shop.

Just one comment to the newbies. When I first tried to joining FC, in the days before the new process, I was rejected because (if I remember correctly) of my Hotmail email address. Then when my membership was allowed, I read, read, read for months before ever posting. Then, for months, every post was very carefully thought out before clicking on the Submit button. I'm by no means suggesting that this is the way to go. I'm simply saying that I was terrified of these smart people on FC. Then I began to discover that they are, for the most part (excepting, e.g., 12bux) absolutely wonderful people. Then they became family, with all of the twits, quirks, and zaniness of family.

I wouldn't trade FC for anything, although I'm gonna bypass some comments. It's not personal, it's just that there are only 24 hours in a day, and I must run a business and also have to get more sleep than Thom.

Oh, and one other thing. Anything that I say has no hidden meanings. I'm not clever enough for that.

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

 

[aileen_c]

Oh but Connie...You're missing the good stuff!! Apparently Bloomz and I go for a roll in the hay and I'm too much for his aged body!!:faint:

V, there are no words....Thank you.:flower:

 

[Twila]

I've posted a screen shot below of the latest discussions in the Chat forum, the one described as I see 25 threads that all seemed to have garnered some interest, with one generating more than 100 posts and and more than 1200 page views.

Half have more than 100 page views.

Some are social, some are sad and intensely personal, some are informational and others are philosophical. I honestly don't see them as described above and doubt the folks who started those threads feel that way either.

Something to think about....

Ok...so here's my take. If you have read all or even ANY of my posts, you know that I am not one to be abrasive, mean and I try really really hard to be careful to not hurt feelings or call anyone out. I read and reread most of my posts over and over again so that they don't sound like I have all the answers.

I guess it is time for me to do that "calling someone out"....sorry Aileen and Thom :spankmecu and while I'm at it, Shannon too.

I think this thread was originally started with some very valid points. If you look closely at the screen shot, you will notice 25 posts. I see that the Screen Shot was not included. Four of those posts were started by one person-Aileen. Actually I was surprised there wasn't an equal amount (or more) started by Thom. That, I believe, is what was meant by Goldfish's idea of "limiting peoples daily posts".

I agree with Palms (I think) that suggested combining similar threads, instead of starting new ones over and over on the same day. I admit that on a couple of occasions, I too have added TWO jokes in the same day. But I always give it some thought before doing so.

Perhaps I have not yet figured out HOW to use FlowerChat. I always click at the top right of the page where it says "Unread Posts". Maybe I should go to the forums page first. The way that I do it, I have to wade through page after page after page to find what I am interrested in. And before anyone suggests that I IGNORE the chat or new members section....I don't want to do that! There are days when I am in the mood for a joke or two, or just some lighthearted readings. There just might be something I want to read or don't want to miss.

We have all been to a party or business meeting where there are a few people who monopolize the entire affair by doing all the talking and boasting. They are the ones who have the Best Story or the Better Story, have the Best Clothes, Have the answer to Each and Every Question and run over every person in the conversation. Or how about the ones that get in your personal space...you back up and they step forward--doesn't that just bug the heck out of you?! It doesn't take long before we find ourself avoiding those "know-it-alls". I wish it weren't so, but I think this is only common nature to do this.

I also understand that there are many of us who have never had the chance to have Center Stage, or be Listened to. And we need to give them the chance to do so. I only ask that we all think about the others and how we may be coming across. We don't all have all the answers, it is not necessary to answer each and every post (many threads-several times), and I believe we can all be respectful of each other.

Sometimes, we all need to take a break from certain people. Over the time here, I have had a couple people that have had the uncanny ability to Really Tick me off. I have had to have the "Smarts" to avoid reading anything they had to post. I can happily say that NOW I can read their posts and comments. I know that you are a big boy-Goldfish-and can handle me saying that you were one of those people. Now, even tho I don't understand alot of what you are saying, I stop and consider your posts. One of those people started out posting to most threads in what I would consider "Most unpleasant and boastful" remarks. I think with maturity on the board, that person too has calmed down tons. I will now read them.

I liked what Victoria noticed: that by reading the posts, we truly get to know each other. I mentioned to Jonathon the other day (even tho we come from the same parents), that you really can tell how different we are from each other just by the way we Post. We have been given a great and wonderful forum to be able to share of ourselves, ask for advice, give ideas on how we have handled things, share parts of our lives and just be Heard. Al I would ask is that we are all careful to not be that "you-know-who" from the party.

 

[bloomz]

Oh but Connie...You're missing the good stuff!! Apparently Bloomz and I go for a roll in the hay and I'm too much for his aged body!!:faint:

It's ok Leen, I caught my breath and I'm ready for round 2. :flower:

Bloomz gets exactly what he wants out of this board.
- an audience
- a chance to make waves
- entertainment

I checked some stats ... almost 10% of JB's threads have been in the Jokes, Chat or Dirty Jokes forums, not to mention the Political forum.

You know, when a thread hits 20 pages everybody gets pizza.

I think what Ryan meant to say there was - ONLY 10% of JB's threads.

opinions vary

all blessings

 

[aileen_c]

I'm on for it Bloomz...but you never finished round 1....meet me in chat...

 

[bloomz]

that was a low blow, but speaking of that...

 

[CHR]

Ok...so here's my take. If you have read all or even ANY of my posts, you know that I am not one to be abrasive, mean and I try really really hard to be careful to not hurt feelings or call anyone out. I read and reread most of my posts over and over again so that they don't sound like I have all the answers.

I'll testify that you are indeed a gentle lady, yet the real brains behind the biz. :> I know your candor here does not come easily.

I guess it is time for me to do that "calling someone out"....sorry Aileen and Thom :spankmecu and while I'm at it, Shannon too.

This whole thread could have been avoided had the passive-aggressive side of some members not superseded their cajones.

Like I said in another post in this thread, Ryan gave us the useful 'groan' button to tell members their posts are not really useful. Please use it. That's why it's there.

Also know that one woman's useless post is another's 'duh' moment to rattle the cage and propel them to greatness. I have especially enjoyed the design-oriented posts from Tom and Shannon and wish there were more, not less.

I think this thread was originally started with some very valid points. If you look closely at the screen shot, you will notice 25 posts. I see that the Screen Shot was not included. Four of those posts were started by one person-Aileen. Actually I was surprised there wasn't an equal amount (or more) started by Thom. That, I believe, is what was meant by Goldfish's idea of "limiting peoples daily posts".

I am not in favor of naming names, but will say that many, many of the their contributions have been insightful and appealing to many members. I truly relish the design oriented posts and can undestand why the non-designers wish they would go away. Too bad, I think they're here to stay.

I could certainly do with less of the personal stuff, but understand the need and know other members enjoy those posts, too - and like hearing news about personal life myself.). (And while we're at it, I spent the last couple days with our darling Rosie who finished 5th in the CA state Fee-Throw competition. She hit 13 of 15 in the shoot-off.)

I agree with Palms (I think) that suggested combining similar threads, instead of starting new ones over and over on the same day.

Haven taken heat for both combining and slitting threads, let me say the admin team is both bruised and battered on this. We could do better, but really don't relish dodging bullets.

We don't all have all the answers, it is not necessary to answer each and every post (many threads-several times), and I believe we can all be respectful of each other.

That's true across the board - and nasty sarcasm (not you, of course) should never be a substitute for conceding a pointing when a person has lost the arguement.

I liked what Victoria noticed: that by reading the posts, we truly get to know each other.

100% agree. By reading a post with a fresh mind, even with the folks we naturally disagree, we can learn a lot. Divorce the post from the poster and words and wisdom can become even more powerful..

 

[aileen_c]

I'd like to ask can we please put this to rest? I don't think we need anymore on the subject. Bloomz was upset, I noticed it and he caught me on a day where I simply just wasn't gonna "take it" anymore. It is out of character for me to lash out at people, at anyone for that matter. Although I don't think I was that harsh, I could be wrong. But, he and I have settled it in our own way and I believe we're cool with it? Right Bloomz??

 

[prestonway]

But, he and I have settled it in our own way and I believe we're cool with it? Right Bloomz??

that was a low blow, but speaking of that...

Say no more...say no more...

Maybe you two should book a room?

:spintongu:spintongu:spintongu

 

[RWK]

Well, I am finally going to say this.....

Mods, can I ask one of you to close this thread?

 

[goldfish]

Most people click on 'unread posts' and are confronted with hundreds of threads.

How about creating 'sort threads' functions in 'unread posts' section. Right now, the threads are sorted only by the date.

Ability to sort all the threads according to: 'forum' or '# of replies' or 'starter', would be very helpful.

This way, we can quickly go to our favorite forum, or the most popular thread, or threads started by our favorite poster(s), without going through pages and pages of threads we aren't interested.

 

[TGDragonfly]

If you click the "quick links" then "today's posts" it helps. Also the ignore command is helpful to which is why I am here now.

Twila thanks for your candor. I'm glad I finally saw it. The reason I so appreciate it is that you had the nerve to tell me I'm being a blow hole.
Yes it hurts, I am human too. But I get it. What really hurt was the latter post that some just wish I'd go away. i wish I would too but i would miss the friends I made and my days alone would be dull.

I had no idea that I was hogging the threads. I had no idea that I was being a show boat. Starting to many threads, what ever. I'm not a bad person. I have feelings too. I don't like to hurt anyone. It's just always been in my nature to stand out in the crowd. In my profession I have learned that when in a room of competitors bidding on the same job, if I don't stand out, if I'm not a "show boat" then I just get ignored and lose which is something I loathe.

I was really excited when I first joined FlowerChat because I never found anything like it and I could identify somewhat to the plight. And it was fun making new friends, and I have always thought friends could let their hair down and have some fun, but as I said before your post, I try to apologize for my actions, and I learn not to go there again.

So I choose to quit posting, at least on the threads, unless I can add a comment that can be helpful. But I will post all I want on my profile page because I have a lot of ideas, and I love it when I stumble on a new idea or product or share thoughts with others. So if you still want to see all the goofy crap I come up with you can read it there. I can pm all I want too which will lighten the overcrowded threads.

All I ask in return is that you guys don't do this to the next show boat that inevitably will arise to want to shine, and realize beyond your own reality that some people just need to shine and share, but quenched they slip into deep despair. Because FlowerChat, I believe this might have some emotional addiction.

Thank you
Thom

 

[Tracy D'Amico]

I agree, FC sometimes is way too much ... co-dependency .... when I find myself thinking "hmm, what would they say about this" too often, I also quietly step back for a bit. But that's my issue, not Flowerchat's.

Thom, I hope you change your mind. I find many of your topics helpful, even when we disagree. I'm glad you're here.

 

[Mikey the Flower Guy]

what powers that JB has on this board!!
A good chain yank, and he's managed to get EVERYONE to grow gears!!
Jon......:yourock:

 

[Victoria]

Thom... that is a waste of talent. Not everyone feels the same way.

V

 

[Beth]

Thom,

I agree with V. I don't think your posts are any kind of a problem on FC. You usually have something great to share! I hope you keep sharing.

 

[lori042499]

Thom, I agree with most...You are a wealth of knowledge, your info may not be for everyone, but most info is not for everyone...

Please don't stop posting, maybe just post less inane stuf and more of your useful stuff, I don't know, I have just learned to ignore the stuff I don't care about in all aspects of my life and here is no different. I am not sure why we all need to make people feel bad...as my 7 year old nephew would say, "That's not very nice!"

 

[alisonm1215]

If you click the "quick links" then "today's posts" it helps. Also the ignore command is helpful to which is why I am here now.

Twila thanks for your candor. I'm glad I finally saw it. The reason I so appreciate it is that you had the nerve to tell me I'm being a blow hole.
Yes it hurts, I am human too. But I get it. What really hurt was the latter post that some just wish I'd go away. i wish I would too but i would miss the friends I made and my days alone would be dull.

I had no idea that I was hogging the threads. I had no idea that I was being a show boat. Starting to many threads, what ever. I'm not a bad person. I have feelings too. I don't like to hurt anyone. It's just always been in my nature to stand out in the crowd. In my profession I have learned that when in a room of competitors bidding on the same job, if I don't stand out, if I'm not a "show boat" then I just get ignored and lose which is something I loathe.

I was really excited when I first joined FlowerChat because I never found anything like it and I could identify somewhat to the plight. And it was fun making new friends, and I have always thought friends could let their hair down and have some fun, but as I said before your post, I try to apologize for my actions, and I learn not to go there again.

So I choose to quit posting, at least on the threads, unless I can add a comment that can be helpful. But I will post all I want on my profile page because I have a lot of ideas, and I love it when I stumble on a new idea or product or share thoughts with others. So if you still want to see all the goofy crap I come up with you can read it there. I can pm all I want too which will lighten the overcrowded threads.

All I ask in return is that you guys don't do this to the next show boat that inevitably will arise to want to shine, and realize beyond your own reality that some people just need to shine and share, but quenched they slip into deep despair. Because FlowerChat, I believe this might have some emotional addiction.

Thank you
Thom

Hi Thom,
I don't think it has to be an all or nothing situation. Your posts are helpful and can be very useful, but there are so many of them that it can be difficult to wade through the sheer numbers. This advise is something I've had to give to myself and is definetly unsolicited, but maybe give yourself some time to respond before blasting off a reply and moving to another thread. Also really read the questions of the origional post and give it some thought before you answer the post as to not hijack the thread.
There is plenty of room for all of us here and we need all of our input to keep our industry and community thriving. We are both new to this board and have a long way to go before calling it quits this early.
Hey, I'm as guilty as anyone else of poor etiquette, sarcasm and above all bad spelling and grammar, but I think we should continue on.

 

[shannonlovesflowers]

Ok...so here's my take. If you have read all or even ANY of my posts, you know that I am not one to be abrasive, mean and I try really really hard to be careful to not hurt feelings or call anyone out. I read and reread most of my posts over and over again so that they don't sound like I have all the answers.

I guess it is time for me to do that "calling someone out"....sorry Aileen and Thom :spankmecu and while I'm at it, Shannon too.

I think this thread was originally started with some very valid points. If you look closely at the screen shot, you will notice 25 posts. I see that the Screen Shot was not included. Four of those posts were started by one person-Aileen. Actually I was surprised there wasn't an equal amount (or more) started by Thom. That, I believe, is what was meant by Goldfish's idea of "limiting peoples daily posts".

I agree with Palms (I think) that suggested combining similar threads, instead of starting new ones over and over on the same day. I admit that on a couple of occasions, I too have added TWO jokes in the same day. But I always give it some thought before doing so.

Perhaps I have not yet figured out HOW to use FlowerChat. I always click at the top right of the page where it says "Unread Posts". Maybe I should go to the forums page first. The way that I do it, I have to wade through page after page after page to find what I am interrested in. And before anyone suggests that I IGNORE the chat or new members section....I don't want to do that! There are days when I am in the mood for a joke or two, or just some lighthearted readings. There just might be something I want to read or don't want to miss.

We have all been to a party or business meeting where there are a few people who monopolize the entire affair by doing all the talking and boasting. They are the ones who have the Best Story or the Better Story, have the Best Clothes, Have the answer to Each and Every Question and run over every person in the conversation. Or how about the ones that get in your personal space...you back up and they step forward--doesn't that just bug the heck out of you?! It doesn't take long before we find ourself avoiding those "know-it-alls". I wish it weren't so, but I think this is only common nature to do this.

I also understand that there are many of us who have never had the chance to have Center Stage, or be Listened to. And we need to give them the chance to do so. I only ask that we all think about the others and how we may be coming across. We don't all have all the answers, it is not necessary to answer each and every post (many threads-several times), and I believe we can all be respectful of each other.

Sometimes, we all need to take a break from certain people. Over the time here, I have had a couple people that have had the uncanny ability to Really Tick me off. I have had to have the "Smarts" to avoid reading anything they had to post. I can happily say that NOW I can read their posts and comments. I know that you are a big boy-Goldfish-and can handle me saying that you were one of those people. Now, even tho I don't understand alot of what you are saying, I stop and consider your posts. One of those people started out posting to most threads in what I would consider "Most unpleasant and boastful" remarks. I think with maturity on the board, that person too has calmed down tons. I will now read them.

I liked what Victoria noticed: that by reading the posts, we truly get to know each other. I mentioned to Jonathon the other day (even tho we come from the same parents), that you really can tell how different we are from each other just by the way we Post. We have been given a great and wonderful forum to be able to share of ourselves, ask for advice, give ideas on how we have handled things, share parts of our lives and just be Heard. Al I would ask is that we are all careful to not be that "you-know-who" from the party.

Got it, sorry, thought I was helping, I'm outie.

Thank you and good night.

peace

 

[Beth]

I know I don't have much cache here on FC, but I think Shannon leaving is just a travesty. Sheesh!!