Why wire services? Here's why

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Free lance? Does that mean you work for florists or do you do work on the side for people you know and who know you?

also, does this mean you take and fill CC orders from other florists?

Joe

It simply means I'm not out of touch with reality in the florist business. It means that I have many contacts in the industry, it means that my knowledge is current, and it means that yes I do take and fill credit card orders from other florists.

Victoria
 
It simply means I'm not out of touch with reality in the florist business. It means that I have many contacts in the industry, it means that my knowledge is current, and it means that yes I do take and fill credit card orders from other florists.

Victoria

Joe....she IS, what she says......no need to "doubt".....
 
I'm not following, Did you send or receive this order? and where did the $70 come from?
Our shop sent the order - 5 items for a funeral service of the father of a long-time customer. The (more than) $70 is the portion a traditional WS would have retained as a clearinghouse fee. Even deducting the CC discount, the filling florist's net and cash flow improve significantly by being payed direct.
 
Our shop sent the order - 5 items for a funeral service of the father of a long-time customer. The (more than) $70 is the portion a traditional WS would have retained as a clearinghouse fee. Even deducting the CC discount, the filling florist's net and cash flow improve significantly by being payed direct.

OK now this makes sense.

and.... well of course the receiving shops cash flow would improve sending direct vs WS.....

but this is not what this thread is about....

It's about the ability to trust and full faith in the other party's ability to fulfill their obligations.

In my case it was the other shop's inability to make payment WHEN I was ready to receive payment. Thus a long drawn out hassle.

Lets consider the time my staff wasted with this order and the sending shop's as well.

It was a $30 (no delivery charge was added) order and we wasted well over $10 (probably closer to $15 in total costs, ) in labor procurring payment.

Now that isn't exactly efficient, is it?
 
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A RARE EXCEPTION, but NOT THE NORM!

The same scenario could've played out with a consumer Joe.

When we get a DECLINE, which is rare, from one of our own customers, we call them back and get another card. Sometimes, we can't reach them and so, everything is ON HOLD until we GET PAID.

In some cases, the efforts we are forced to put into those few types of scenarios, begin to outway the order's profitabilty. And so, we just chalk it up to the CUSTOMER $ERVICE aspect of what wee doo.

Regardless, I would rather glean a full 80% net to filler from another fellow real florist rather than allow those orders to go through a WS WRINGER at 71% net to filler on the surface, less all the other dues, fees, and optional ancillary charges they create with their VOO DOO economics 101, and finally winding up with fify-cents on the final dollar.

Occasional CC declines, with follows up calls, does not make for an endorsement of how a WS works better for anyone. Make no mistake that, we pay dearly for the guantee of payments when they go through their wringers. And, any losses they incur, are simply passed on to THEIR MEMBERS in the forms of HIGHER DUES and FEES.
 
yea, i agree toto.

it is an exception, but my experience is that many flower shops are financially unstable and are becoming more and more so.

I am just glad i didn't give up any of $30 to that shop in the form of a commission.

joe
 
Maybe I just pay my bills but I don't belong to a wire service and always call direct using my business credit card. Why you would balk at taking from a shop direct confuses me. So if I called and said I was just Joe Blow customer, you would trust me more?
I also don't expect you to give me any commission discount...that is up to you but I don't ask for it. We are all in this together and If I can give you the business and have you receive 100% on a direct order and my customer gets full value for their money and I have provided a service, Im happy...hopefully you are too!
 
Joe,

I understand your frustration, but if you received that same $30 order as an incoming order (with no delivery added) you would have gotten $21.90 for it at 73%, which does not account for all the fees you pay monthly for the priveledge of belonging...so you would probably have netted roughly $18 on the order. This ends up being roughly the same as your aggrivation deduction.

I send direct with a credit card...I like the idea of giving 100% of the order (less delivery) to the filling florist. I don't ask for or want a discount, just please fill my order for my customer. The card we use is a debit card that does have a $500 per day max on it (I have never had a problem with it). I have it set up so I can increase the max. at holiday time, so I won't run into any trouble.
 
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