BOSS
FlowerChat Administrator
I'd pay money to see that!CHR said:Thank goodness I'm not quite the raging feminist I used to be 'cuz thirty years ago I'd have burned my bra and decked you for a comment like that. :>:
I'd pay money to see that!CHR said:Thank goodness I'm not quite the raging feminist I used to be 'cuz thirty years ago I'd have burned my bra and decked you for a comment like that. :>:
Infinite said:Who has capital, a marketing team, access to florists, and a web IT departmet?
Amazon.com? Froogle?Infinite said:Who has capital, a marketing team, access to florists, and a web IT department?
Not anymore. *searches for geezerette icon* LOLsteve said:Ummmmmmmmmm now that certainly would add some spice to flower chat.
Griff said:Then, can you give us some idea how jumping from one company's proprietary machine to another company's proprietary machine gains anything in the long run?
Yes I'm sorry I do !!! telephone lines are a thing of the past, you need a system that can have access to live data 24/7.. Your customer deserves that...That is the only way you can have a competitive edge over the 29.95 orders.You need your labor to be tight and effective.You need your costs of goods to be in line and you need to have this data at a moments notice. If your system can do this for you Hurray I'm glad you are one step ahead of the rest.. Now take that info and do something with it... Thats the problem florists are faced with today, what do they do with the tools provided. Some don't do this... Every day I talk with our users and say time for some marketing... So many are caught up in the whats my competition doing and not doing anything to grow there own... Now your issue about propriety machines... Why in my right mind would we provide another machine with our technology... Better yet are you willing to pay thousands of dollars to be able to use it ? You have made your choice whats best for your business, all we can do is promote what we think is the right thing for florists who can do the right thing for their customer. I hope this addressed your issue about proprietary machines. You don't have to switch stay with fax machines and excess labor...If it works for you cheers. we are just trying to help the current situation in todays floral world. The 2 big ws have clogged the arteries of todays florist and they know no difference. If IFA is your choice over ETFA thats fine you have made a committment to make your business better with the tools available. being a former florist for 25 years I have seen the times change drastically over the past 10... Now is the time you make your change from being stagnant.. If its not broken, break it now before its too late. Make a firm committment to allow yourself real choices rather than choices that are smoke and mirrors.Griff said:The secret seems to be in how they can be harnessed to gether. No they don't allow POS without help, but even POS systems have the ability to send theri orders by telephone lines to another florist as long as the first computer has the address of the second. Anyone got any problems with that??
Griff said:Then, can you give us some idea how jumping from one company's proprietary machine to another company's proprietary machine gains anything in the long run?
The Mac lovers of MicrosoftBOSS said:No one commented on my reference to Microsoft and the proprietary nature of WindoZ, but you can compare the "proprietary" question to MS and Apple working together...something thats not going to happen.
carol said:I was talking about a website.... that any member florist could access.. It is my understanding that Advantage can upload from websites other than FTD's FOL// so if you have your own website you can configure Advantage to import orders from your stand-alone website into the program and print out the appropriate data where it belongs on the invoice and have that data processed into bookkeeping... so I ASSUME Mas and others can do the same thing
Boss said:it would have to be able to know what technology you and I have, and then send the data in the various formats...something no web site I know of is capable of doing.
Have to disagree with you there, MAS Mark!BOSS said:No one commented on my reference to Microsoft and the proprietary nature of WindoZ, but you can compare the "proprietary" question to MS and Apple working together...something thats not going to happen.
BOSS} Regarding Advantage (and any other platform) and websites...this is the precise problem. Yes Advantage and other platforms can upload from other than FTD websites said:Mark, isn't this exactly what the whole point is about. Florists who have done all the right things, invested in advanced equipment either from the WS or equipemt developed to work with the WS, developed websites with the WS and have obtained advantages within their company because of their investments now find it almost impossible to change course because what they have invested in the past, now allows them no options. Every POS system has been created to work first and foremost in conjuction a WS system. If these same independent companies are now faced with trying to find ways to communicate with everything else, either there isn't sufficient number of florists using systems d, e, f, & g to make it worth anyones time to make it possible for them to communicate with each other or the pure fact is the systems are too far different to ever make it work.
I know Ryan doesn't want me to talk about telephone lines, but in many parts of the country, that IS the only dependable avenue and all current systems today employee telephone lines to communicate in one form or another. I don't know which is worse, WS companies who have sold florists on the positive concepts of the bundling of proprietary equipment, software and hosted websites or the fact that now many florists are looking for ways to exit but are unable to find any companies that can provide everything they are looking for as a straight up exchange. Or maybe part of the problem is placing some of the blame on independent companies who had place such a high value on selling POS and have forgotten that probably 60-75% of the florist market today is really just looking for an inexpensive way to send and receive orders and possible include website assistance.
BOSS said:Regarding Advantage (and any other platform) and websites...this is the precise problem. Yes Advantage and other platforms can upload from other than FTD websites, HOWEVER, it is the website that must be modified and not the system recieving the data. Hence a website that works with MAS will not work with Advantage and a web site that works with Advantage will not work with RTI. This is the problem with building a site that would work for every florist...it would have to be able to know what technology you and I have, and then send the data in the various formats...something no web site I know of is capable of doing.
PhillyPhlorist said:Apple has made QuickTime avail. for wintel machines. MS has made Office avail. for Macs - to the point where an Office doc. created on a Mac can be read by a Wintel machine and the other way around. Office 2004 even has a compatability checker that will let you know if something created in your doc will be viewed differently on another platform/version of Office/etc.
- H.