*Design Competition* Your Best Dozen Roses - Discussion

[Lizi]

I found the voting process hard to do, I would vote and return to the pics that were entered and it was like there were different arrangements. I was hard to keep up with who I voted for and I know that there were some I didn't get back to.

It was very interesting to see all of the designs used and I think it helped to inspire a lot of us as to different ways of doing a dozen roses.

 

[Carol Bice]

This competition was just outstanding. There are some really good designers out there. Even the ones that didn't win were just wonderful. EACH ONE of you that entered can feel a sense of pride in your work. There is not one person that needs to feel anything but pride for their entry.

A big congratulations to every single one of you and thank you so much Cathy for making this happen and all your very hard work on this. Seeing this makes me think we can have hope that our industry may survive.
Carol Bice

 

[rewolf]

...I think it should be made very clear to those voting that they should rate each one. I did not know this and voted originally for only my favorite 3, then I found out that by not rating each one it was like given someone a 0...
Joan

OMG...I did this too but I did not know I was to go back and vote for the rest. :wide: I voted for my favorite and that was it. I hope that I did not contribute to diminishing anyone's score...

 

[bloomz]

If that's the case - I did the same thing - I think I only voted for 3 of them.

Bummer...sorry

 

[Dazeal]

Me too, sorry.

It's an interesting way to vote and I am sure most of us wished we would of gotten our design in the first day.

Maybe next time, have a set time in which one can enter, then it closes. Then a set time to vote and then it closes. I'm not complaining and appreciate the hard work you have done Cathy and to all the entries who have done an outstanding job, offering a suggestion.

 

[shannonlovesflowers]

I rated all of them. And I commented on all of them.
didn't seem hard to me.

My biggest drama is still trying to figure out what a spider slurp and google robot is.

I think I may have nightmares about them!!

 

[shannonlovesflowers]

Me too, sorry.

It's an interesting way to vote and I am sure most of us wished we would of gotten our design in the first day.

Maybe next time, have a set time in which one can enter, then it closes. Then a set time to vote and then it closes. I'm not complaining and appreciate the hard work you have done Cathy and to all the entries who have done an outstanding job, offering a suggestion.

I think that is exactly how it was Dazel....

 

[CHR]

This yet again affirms that florists treat instructions just like we do magazines and look at the pictures without reading the words.

From the rules (published both in the first post of this thread AND on the main page of the competition):

2) FC members will vote by assigning ratings to individual designs. A member may only vote on a single arrangement once, but can vote for as many as they choose.

Guess next time we'll have to make pictures of the rules.

 

[CHR]

Maybe next time, have a set time in which one can enter, then it closes. Then a set time to vote and then it closes.

From the rules:

Uploading will begin on Sunday, September 14 and will run through Sunday, September 28.

Votes may be cast from Monday, September 29 through midnight Eastern Standard Time, Sunday October 5.

Guess we need pictures of the dates, too. :>

 

[Sher]

I felt badly for you...I saw that several more folks tried to vote for you but the clock closed at 7:04...I had two folks call me too that they had missed the cut-off....I think you won BJ and that's why it is taking so taking to count! lol
Sher

From the rules:
Guess we need pictures of the dates, too. :>

Did I have trouble reading the time...I swear I saw that the vote was closed at 7:04pm...what did I misunderstand?
SHER

 

[CHR]

The forum clock must need resetting. At 9 pm Pacific (midnight Eastern) last night, I went through all 29 entries by hand and marked 'voting has closed'.

The pages load slowly so there will be a small time range between them.

We needed to easily have a spot marked to do the tallying.

 

[CHERYL BAKIN]

Cathy,
I think that you need to talk to The Infinite One about request changes.....coming from you, it should get done quick!

sorry for your pain in tallying by hand.

Cheryl

 

[Knife's Wife]

This yet again affirms that florists treat instructions just like we do magazines and look at the pictures without reading the words.

From the rules (published both in the first post of this thread AND on the main page of the competition):

Guess next time we'll have to make pictures of the rules.

My intention was not to offend you Cathy, no I don't think I need a picture. It was not clear how the voting would be tallied and it did say you could vote for as many as you wanted, not that you should rate all of the pics so that some would not get zero's. I was asked in an e-mail from someone to go back and rate theirs because they would get a zero if I didn't and they knew I would not have rated them a zero.

Anyways, Congrats to all who entered and thank you to all who took the time to rate, even it you did just rate your top picks.

Joan

 

[felicityflowers]

My intention was not to offend you Cathy, no I don't think I need a picture. It was not clear how the voting would be tallied and it did say you could vote for as many as you wanted, not that you should rate all of the pics so that some would not get zero's. I was asked in an e-mail from someone to go back and rate theirs because they would get a zero if I didn't and they knew I would not have rated them a zero.

Anyways, Congrats to all who entered and thank you to all who took the time to rate, even it you did just rate your top picks.

Joan

Joan

I think that LJVF was just illustrating a point that if one design got 50 votes and all of them were 5pts each it would beat another design that only got 10 votes at 10 points each.

It didn't lower someone's score if you didn't vote for them but, it didn't raise their score either.

 

[BJBouquets]

Joan

I think that LJVF was just illustrating a point that if one design got 50 votes and all of them were 5pts each it would beat another design that only got 10 votes at 10 points each.

It didn't lower someone's score if you didn't vote for them but, it didn't raise their score either.

That's absolutely true. It's what happened in this competition.

But if a design caused enough interest to garner 50 votes, and another only caused 10 people to vote, that also makes a statement. There is no single way to set the rules so that they are perfect for everyone. The only thing you can do is state the rules ahead of time so that everyone knows what they are, and can play fairly by those rules.

In sports, there are many rules changes. That means that one team wins in 2008 that couldn't have won in 2007 under different rules. That's the way it goes....

My design wasn't ranked as high as the one done by Dazeal's designer, but it drew more interest. I hated getting a "5" ranking, but while it brought my score down, it did give me points. People voted to bring down my score when they didn't care for my design, but it got me points! If the rules next time are that the highest ranking wins, then the results will be different. In that case, I would choose to do a design that is more acceptable to more people, (more sellable, less arty) so as to score higher, knowing that I might not get as many votes.

I specifically chose to design the way that I did, knowing it would cause people to check it out and vote more. I wasn't designing to get universal acceptance (in this case) because I knew that the winner would be the one with the most points, not the highest score.

I'm ready to design differently if the rules change.

To paraphrase Darwin: the survivors are not the strongest or the smartest, but the species most able to adapt.

I adapted.

I adapted my design to get the best results from these particular rules.

I am honored by each person who voted for me. I sincerely thank you for taking the time to score my design and leave constructive comments, both positive and negative. I have learned more from the negative comments.

 

[Dazeal]

Ignore me, I'm a noob - too many things on my mind right now.. someone hacked our identity at our mortgage company and ran our cc up 3k in two hours. yayyyyy


Thanks again Cathy.

 

[shannonlovesflowers]

That's a drag Dazel....
hope it all works out for you.




Here's my reason for entering:

I was threatened with a green vase, crushed styrofoam, #40 "colossal bow", babies breath infused, gross nasty design with a BANNER concoction with my name on it if I didn't enter...
Guess we found my Achilles heal..

 

[RWK]

I am proud of everybody who entered, All of you are winners in that respect. Now, take those fantastic designs.....put them on your website....and sell, sell, sell.

 

[Dazeal]

I only understand small words and pretty bright pictures. - Maybe next time Ryan can have the total tallied showing total number and not the average so us hill folk don't get confused.

In any event, it was nice to see how everyone designs and BJ's egg one was very unique. I voted for yours BJ, I see now, why you didn't vote for mine.. nice. I am so naive sometimes. Plus I am controversial and see some who voted for others, but not for mine. Oh well, I guess I should learn to keep my opinions to myself. Yayyyyyy

4 give me, agan cathee, i justed learded 2 reed :kyle

ty for adding it up Cathy, do we have a winner?

 

[shannonlovesflowers]

This post is in response to another post that has since been deleted by the poster, I decided to leave it up anyway:

BJ is a wonderful person. At the Colorado Cup He stood right next to me COMPETING AGAINST ME and told me such encouraging words! I was so bummed to see him on the roster the day before the competition, I actually cried and I almost bailed. But I didn't. I sucked it up. Then they go and put us side by side. Talk about scarry... I told him about me crying and almost bailing. That's when he told me not to sweat it, but in his own BJ way. Then after it was all over told me how he was watching me design and how I good he thought I did.

So no shame is to be had by BJ.
BJ is one of the most helpful and smart designers I have ever met!
You don't get AAF by being a jerk!




P.S.
I'm really shocked that there seems to be a bit of pouting. When I was the one told not to pout. We all new that there was only going to be 12 winners. We all knew that if you entered you might get told stuff you don't want to hear. What was that about bruised egos????? humm... Just chalk it up to experience, learn from it and let it go.

FYI, my first competition I BOMBED big time. I'm sure I will bomb again. It goes without saying. And SO WHAT.