Rhonda
Well-Known Member
For the best Midland Flower Delivery, choose Kremp! (direct from their page)
SAF and their stand on Order Gathering
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anytimeflowers
Linda
Hal,
This one little piece niggles me. There are new members joining this forum as free, trial, or pro members every day. EVERY DAY. I think that issues such as these need to be revisited for the benefit of everybody.
It also gives prospects a look at what they are in for, whine and roses! lol
bootcampguy
Well-Known Member
BOSS
FlowerChat Administrator
Hey Rick.... Lookie HERE They have one for your city too....
And Duane, check the image.... it's a SAF link, for Kremps shop in Winnipeg Manitoba CANADA... BTW the search term was "Kremp Florist Winnipeg"
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duanermb
New Member
Ok...
Fast Midland Flower Delivery
Kremp Florist will coordinate a nationwide network of affiliated florists and flower shops to ensure that your Midland flower delivery reaches its destination fast and fresh. Kremp Florist is the perfect choice whether you are ordering from Midland or sending flowers to Midland, Michigan and whether you are ordering Mother's Day Flowers or flowers for any occasion. Whatever location you want to send flowers to, Kremp Florist can get them there!
BOSS
FlowerChat Administrator
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This is probably a violation of SAF copyright,etc.
Using SAF link to a private site is probably very much a NO NO.
If I were an SAF member I would complain to SAF with a RANT....
If you are a member of TF and you used their logo to link to your site...same thing.
Dont laugh too hard !!! Sorry if you were offended however the facts are just that, same things said by same people with no resolve. While i agree every now and then is ok but just to gripe and whine ? Now Wine ? I'm all in. This issue is going to take time and not be resolved overnight. Would love to hear what positive steps florists are taking rather than the constant complaining. Revisting is fine but suggest a solution right or wrong thats my definition of proactive. Get involved don't sit on the sideline !! Eventually things will happen.. Some people on this board are working very hard to make a differance and compete. This is what MAS is doing, further developing MAS Direct so all real florists on independant technology can communicate with one another electronically. Wouldnt it be fantastic if Floristware, FAS, Visual Ticket and MAS could all do this together. By providing your customer live current information this is something they "OG" can't do thats why the fees imposed by Wire Services on incoming orders when not delivered or confirmed or held and rejected. This is something that would be HUGE with just a little more involvement. The OG's are the ones dictating to the Wire Services on how to handle the retail florists because of volume. Florists don't need another wire service they need a marketing company that they can collectively use to grab more of that "All About Me" business. It's too bad SAF couldnt be that vehicle, having to be politically correct all the time doesnt go well. But as I stated before you have to be proactive in your own yard first and SAF does offer tools to assist you, it's your choice to use or not.
duanermb
New Member
Not sure what you are talking about on the link.
And they do offer Midland Flower Delivery. They are paid a commission to send that order to willing fillers in Midland. It's called a network of florists. You are saying that as a consumer they are being duped because its not stated in the very first paragraph?
It's in the third paragraph, and is in the same font as their Midland comment, not the fine print.
Here's the about Wesley Berry.
I am not saying I like any of this any more than you do, but just because it doesn't say it on the home page doesn't make them villains. What is reality and what we want are often not the same thing.
Are you saying the customer is duped because they can't click on an About Us or Contact us page before they place the order?
duanermb
New Member
Did you actually click on the link man???
You googled Kremp Florists and Winnipeg. So, the GOOGLE GENERATED tag showed you both terms which are pulled from the directory page. OMG.
Kremp Florist
Philadelphia's premier flower shop serving Philadelphia and the suburban area. Flower delivery available all across the nation and worldwide. Open and delivering 7 days a week.
Dragonfly Flowers on McPhillips
Winnipeg, Manitoba Florist specializing in unique, creative floral designs for All Occasions.
For me I can not fight the OGs of the world but I can ASK for more money on every order
anywhere from $20.00 and up.
They cancel 95% of the time. The other 5% I get more money. Still no profit but better.
Golferdude
anywhere from $20.00 and up.
They cancel 95% of the time. The other 5% I get more money. Still no profit but better.
Golferdude
bootcampguy
Well-Known Member
Ok, here goes........something for Friday to talk about. Hal said all we need it a marketing company and the "all about me" campaign........well I bet that if you took the 10,000 - 12,000 florists (real florists - no deception) at all.........with a policy board "tulip po po's" to police, then our combined customers data bases would give us (unprovable yet/researching) about 100 times the power that any w/s, og or others have right now. We've become merely fee payers for all the levels of the service that we provide, it should be the other way around. We should be the Amazon or the Ebay......remember Meg Whitman who ran FTD, I had one lunch with her and knew (we the florists) weren't gonna have her long. She told we that the florist could be anything we wanted to be, but we were most likely to wind up under the product than on top of it. We should be the ones charging the fees, distribution platforms, tech platforms, etc.............To in depth to go into, but we have power we just have to figure out how and then go visit the wiz for some courage............Hal and others, we are the marketing vehicle for the future...........
Doug Munro
Well-Known Member
Absolutely, every penny of it. What we earn off an order is our 20% commision, our sending bonus (for hitting minimums and paying on time) and the $9.95 Service Fee we charge. The full product amount anddelivery charge is transmitted to the fullfilling florist.
The strange thing is that we strive to be as honest with the consumer as possible and have over 50 retail outlets and yet many on this board view us as some kind of evil order gatherer.
BOSS
FlowerChat Administrator
No they do not "deliver". They offer order transfer. To me there is a difference, as they retain 20%+service charge+REBATE...
And I apologize on the other link for Winnipeg, in my rush to eat, design and debate I neglected to investigate completely. My bad.
BOSS
FlowerChat Administrator
I'll admit I was guilty of that, until I got to know a little about Doug and his operations. In my book, he's legit.
hence my comments about your own back yard, 10 thousand florists doing this what amazing results that are possible
Doug Munro
Well-Known Member
I agree with Hal on boycotting, I personally believe a boycott would be the worst possible move imaginable.
First off who makes the decision which fulfillers to boycott?
Secondly, our industry is already declining in sales due partially to the fact that todays consumers has a wide awray of gift options available for delivery worldwide. Why would we do anything to further jeopardize flowers as one of their choices. How many consumers that suffer non-delivery due to a boycott will simply exercise their own option to "boycott" a product and select a different gift option than flowers on their next purchase.
Third, the average consumer does not know what a wire service, order gathers, or a "real" florist is, more importantly they don't care. When their flowers are not delivered they will simply come to the determination that next time they won't send flowers.