Announcement Change Is Here!

That's a great idea - and one that we're working to implement. We've already had some donated subscriptions that we processed manually, and I'm working to automate that capability.
And how do you propose to do that? there are some 4000 members today and likely 50% will leave, so how are you going to pick 1 of those that left for a freebee when you get a hundred dollars worth of donations andyou have 2000 people that want back in without paying???

I also hope your definition of professional excludes arcades, casinos and frienkds. I don't see what these have to do with the flower business.

I fully agree this stuff has nothing to do with business.......get rid of it!!
 
I been here since 2004 and we have argued over the same things all these years and yet we have never done a darn thing to try and take back this industry. There were far more of us Florist here in the US and Canada back then and we continue to lose more every single day. Together we have clout indiviually we can't make a ripple in a mud puddle . The florist industry is at the cross roads not just for the florist but I think for the wire services and the wholesalers too. Unless we reinvent this business and develope a brand that we can promote and rally behind then our future is indeed bleek. It is clear that some here are caught in a bad finacial position but I suspect that as their finacial position improves they will rejoin. I have played a lot of sports over the years and I have been involved in managment in some large companies and two phrases stand out in my mind as we look forward.

No Guts No Glory! and You either part of the solution or your part of the problem!

You know? I just thought of something, and I'm surprised it took this long to sink in. Allow me, please, to share a personal observation.

I have always said that I am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason. Every time something bad has happened to me, I've eventually been able to look back and see that if that thing hadn't happened, the good thing that followed wouldn't have happened. God works that way, closing and opening doors.

So there's a reason I was laid off last January after 29 years in the financial services industry (reducing our family income by 2/3). There's a reason that, 10 months prior to that layoff, my husband and I had started our little floral studio (as a part-time venture). There's a reason that, last October, someone else in this industry referred me to FlowerChat (thank you Steve from Garden Delights in Brentwood, TN). I believe there's a reason I found out about FlowerChat just prior to this new venture because, Lord knows, I could use an industry-changer.

What is faith? It's not being able to see around the upcoming bend, but moving forward anyway. If we knew what the future held, then going forward would be a sure thing, it wouldn't be faith. So I'm willing to move forward on faith -- particularly knowing that I'm not just a passenger on someone else's bus, going along for the ride. I'm going to have a stake in this bus, and its success or failure will partly be impacted by my commitment.

By the way, I was thinking about all of the posts I've read in the past few days, and wondered if FlowerChat was still an appropriate name for this group. We used to just chat. Now we're committing ourselves to something bigger. Maybe it should be called Flower Commitment. :) (Just kidding)
 
And how do you propose to do that? there are some 4000 members today and likely 50% will leave, so how are you going to pick 1 of those that left for a freebee when you get a hundred dollars worth of donations andyou have 2000 people that want back in without paying???

John I do believe the concept is based on a hand up as needed (not a hand out). The determination of who would receive benefit of this would be decided upon by those who donate. I rather doubt it would be a full forum decision unless of course everyone chose to participate in the process.

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The question has just been posed off forum...Will the general public be allowed to pay their fare and get on board this bus?
There are members concerned that their private comments will be seen by the public.

Are we not going to remain a membership of real florist, suppliers, vendors???

The TOS for registration are quite clear on who can register. If Joe Public decides to snoop in here for some reason his membership will be revoked without refund.

Remember, I paid my dues before they were "required".
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Kinda wanna know if people of my persuasion are desirable or not down the road...

Owner of a flower shop, hard workers, sharp marketer ... gee, I guess we'll take you ;)

What category do I "fit" into?
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In other words, my goal is to help florists set up their own websites
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The best place for me to reach and network with florists is through an online forum such as FlowerChat.
I think you answered your question :) You're a service provider - you offer services related to websites and graphic design.


And how do you propose to do that? there are some 4000 members today and likely 50% will leave, so how are you going to pick 1 of those that left for a freebee when you get a hundred dollars worth of donations andyou have 2000 people that want back in without paying???

When donating, people will select who they are paying for.
 
Yes I too believe you have a right to know. I did not say I would not be in the store, I said I would "not be on the design bench" any longer... big difference. But that aside, as to supporting myself, real estate gathered over the previous generations in my family is a blessing today and will be in the future. Should I decide to get out completely, that alone will take care of me for some time.

I do not receive any compensation from FlowerChat at this point in time. It is/has not been a topic of discussion between Ryan and myself. I will not deny that I have aspirations to do "something else" with my life, I'm currently trying to construct and fund a half-way house for released prisoners and homeless parolees as well as another homeless shelter, and I also have visions, misguided as they may be that someday I can make a real difference in the flower industry too.

If and when the time comes, that there is either an opening at Strider or FlowerChat that I might qualify for, then that would have to be weighed against my current responsibilities and personal needs. At this point in time, I do not see that happening.

This thing about "where the money's going"... if you were new to flowerChat come say July, and decided to pay and join, would you ask the same question?

No, frankly it would not have occurred to me to ask.
 
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Aileen, you intrigued me. I looked up this book on Amazon. In one of the reviews, it listed Jon Gordon's 10 Rules to Fuel your Life, Work and Team With Positive Energy:
1) You're the driver of your bus
2) Desire, vision, and focus move your bus in the right direction
3) Fuel your ride with positive energy (negative energy is friction)
4) Invite people on your bus and share your vision for the road ahead
5) Don't waste your energy on those who don't get on your bus
6) Post a sign that says no energy vampires allowed on your bus (get rid of the malcontents)
7) Enthusiasm attracts more passengers and energizes them for the ride
8) Love your passengers by giving them your time, listening, recognition, service - work to bring out the best in them
9) Drive with purpose
10) Have fun and enjoy the ride

Yes, that is the meat of the book. It is really a quick read, like a couple of hours. I know when I read this book, then read it again....it helped me to see what type of person I was for any bus that came my way. Reading this thread has been a great education and wonderful real life example of this book's purpose. The energy vampires are apparent and then sometimes they come out later on the ride. Pretty interesting stuff going on.
 
ryan,
if you please, can you create a mission statement so we can see as 'investors' where you intend to bring us?

Sharon,

You're not investors. You're partaking of a service (access to FlowerChat). If we decide to take on investors in the new project, we'll post a business plan.
 
LAFSChat start up

Interesting on the "timing" of this announcement;

Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com is proud to announce LAFSChat, a free, password-protected chat room for professional florists to exchange ideas and experiences.
Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com has been providing quality, value-based technological services since 2000 to the professional florist community. From our Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com directory to our Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com web sites, Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com provides affordable solutions to everyday problems florists have, especially during this economic downturn.
Further details will be forthcoming in the next 24 – 48 hours.
 
Interesting on the "timing" of this announcement;

Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com is proud to announce LAFSChat, a free, password-protected chat room for professional florists to exchange ideas and experiences.
Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com has been providing quality, value-based technological services since 2000 to the professional florist community. From our Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com directory to our Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com web sites, Locate-A-Flower-Shop.com provides affordable solutions to everyday problems florists have, especially during this economic downturn.
Further details will be forthcoming in the next 24 – 48 hours.

Not surprising at all - just the opposite. There are always people willing to try to undercut the market leader.

FC wasn't the first forum of its kind, and it won't be last. What we have done, though, is take the model as far as it can go. Launching another free forum will attract a certain crowd, to be sure, but we are positioning ourselves differently.
 
So, just so I have this right, OGs pay $200 per year ("online marketer") and I, little miss pea in a pod, has to pay $500 per year ("service provider"). Wow!

Nope. $100 / year.

As a service provider wanting to sell your service to the members here, you rate is higher at $500 for the year. (How much advertising would $500 get you anywhere else? That's less than one email broadcast via Florists' Review, less than half of a magazine ad.)
 
so do you have a mission statement for this service you want us to join? no need to get snippy.

Sharon,

I'm not getting snippy - sorry if it came across that way. I've tried to be very clear that what you signing up for right now is FlowerChat - with extra content and a better audience. More perks may follow, who knows.
 
Nope. $100 / year.

As a service provider wanting to sell your service to the members here, you rate is higher at $500 for the year. (How much advertising would $500 get you anywhere else? That's less than one email broadcast via Florists' Review, less than half of a magazine ad.)

Like I said, I'm a little pea in a pod...and quite obviously no threat to you or Strider. Requiring me to pay $500 per year ensures that, even though I have no goal to be a direct competitor with you. What Strider offers is far more complex than what I'm offering, suitable for much larger florists. I'm really just a freelance graphic designer, much like a freelance floral designer. Are other graphic designers on here required to pay $500 per year?
OGs pay only $100 per year? And they're one of the biggest threats to florists!
 
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Is it $100 for the year or $8.33 monthly or if we take the monthly option do we have to pay $20.

The monthly is $20.
 
I do have to ask, any particular reason that this is more expensive? And ftr, i am not opposed to profit, it's what we all strive for :)
 
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Amount of PMs currently and after the Paid Cut Off

Regarding "timing", just wondering.... why after this "Change Is Here" announcement..... that I can not get any more PMs beause my "private messages box on FC" is full?

What is the current limit, and the limit for the Paid version?

Dear clay,

roysecityfloristand gifts has just tried to send you a private message. However, your private messages box on FC - Where Professional Florists Grow has reached the specified quota. In order to receive further private messages, you must delete some messages. Please visit this page to do so:
http://www.flowerchat.com/forums/private.php

All the best,
FC - Where Professional Florists Grow


Anyway, roysecityfloristandgifts .....please send me your message at [email protected] .