Announcement Change Is Here!

Palms said:
I do have to ask, any particular reason that this is more expensive? And ftr, i am not opposed to profit, it's what we all strive for :)
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It's low enough to give someone a "taste" of FlowerChat, but high enough that it will dissuade people from dropping in short-term when they need something. The long term price point is the most cost-effective, and has the least amount of admin overhead and cost for us AND it promotes long term use of FC as a community, not just a pop-in when I want to know if anyone has heard of ABC wire service place.

$20 will let someone spend a month learning what FC has to offer, and justify the annual fee.
 
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clay said:
Regarding "timing", just wondering.... why after this "Change Is Here" announcement..... that I can not get any more PMs beause my "private messages box on FC" is full?

What is the current limit, and the limit for the Paid version?
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The current AND paid limit is 500 messages. You can check your usage at the bottom of your index page.

No tie-in to this announcement.
 
Palms said:
I do have to ask, any particular reason that this is more expensive? And ftr, i am not opposed to profit, it's what we all strive for :)
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Paula, monthly payments are always more expensive due to the extra work involved in processing them.

V
 
Why so many question on what you getting for your membership. It almost feels like you want the sky, the moon and the earth for that price.

If I buy a magazine subscription I do not have a say on the content of that publication.

If I buy a membership for the Gym, I do not have a say on how it is run.

If you are a member of a wire service, you do not have a say on what you should or not get or how they spend your dollars on advertisement etc.

If one year is too much for your taste, take a month and see the changes then you can decide if a year subscription is what you want after.

No wonder we can't unite together. Too many people are sticky on rules and what if's!

Luc
 
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Got Ya....thanks.

But I guess I still do not understand, how did I get my last incoming email message in December.....which would make it one less than the current quanities below.....and it is now giving me the message?


Inbox contains 438 messages. You have 879 messages stored, of a total 500 allowed.
 
Infinite said:
Nope. $100 / year.

As a service provider wanting to sell your service to the members here, you rate is higher at $500 for the year. (How much advertising would $500 get you anywhere else? That's less than one email broadcast via Florists' Review, less than half of a magazine ad.)
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Certainly not in the yellow pages! LOL
 
clay said:
Got Ya....thanks.

But I guess I still do not understand, how did I get my last incoming email message in December.....which would make it one less than the current quanities below.....and it is now giving me the message?


Inbox contains 438 messages. You have 879 messages stored, of a total 500 allowed.
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I'll bump your limit for now and we can discuss outside of this thread, since it's off topic.
 
Luc said:
If I buy a magazine subscription I do not have a say on the content of that publication.
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Correct. But you are comparing apples with oranges.

We are being asked to pay to read what other people have donated and will be donating for free. Since the fee ($100) appears to be more than the norm for even a typical magazine with paid authors, there's nothing wrong with asking questions.

People who chastise those of us who wanted to know "where the money's going" are missing the point above IMO. It doesn't mean Ryan and admins have to answer the question to our satisfaction though. The answers were already provided, and I'm OK with it even though I'm not completely satisfied. It's enough to make my own decision.
 
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Biting Tongue.

I really feel that the cost of being a member here is so worth it.

Thank you ryan and all of your moderators that haven't recieved a dime for the years of service helping our sorry asses.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
 
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goldfish said:
Correct. But you are comparing apples with oranges.

We are being asked to pay to read what other people have donated for free. Since the fee ($100) appears to be more than the norm for even a typical magazine with paid authors, there's nothing wrong with asking questions.

People who chastise those of us who wanted to know "where the money's going" are missing the point above IMO. It doesn't mean Ryan and admins have to answer the question to our satisfaction though. The answers were already provided, and I'm OK with it even though I'm not completely satisfied. It's enough to make my own decision.
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Fair enough :)

Also (as someone else pointed out a few pages back), you don't get to interact with a magazine. Florists' Review is great, but you don't get to ask questions of the authors, and sit around a table discussing the article with many other florists.
 
V, with all due respect because you know i truly do respect you. I really dont think that a monthly fee can be over double due to extra time. I process payments all the time and it really does not take that long.

I was about to sign up for the monthly but will have to give it a miss now. I will continue through Jan and then maybe in the summer or spring i will return. :)

I dont disagree with payment or where it is going. I do disagree with strider customers not getting even a minute discount and I do think that penalising regular posters in order to disuade others from joining is unfair.

Sorry, everyone here knows how much i rave about FC so this post is not done lightly. Maybe i will feel differently soon, who knows.
 
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Palms said:
I do disagree with strider customers not getting even a minute discount and I do think that penalising regular posters in order to disuade others from joining is unfair.
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Hey Palms,

I like you and appreciate all you contribute and I will miss you if you go!

I respect your opinion here but please remember that there is another side to this: If there is even a minute discount for Strider clients then some of the majority of FlowerChat members that do not have Strider websites will complain that they are being penalized. It also takes away from the independent status of the board.
 
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Mark, honestly, because if there is one thing i am, its honest. I am not going to get into a debate about this.

For those that want to they can, at the moment i cannot justify the expense both morally and physically so for those reasons i shall not be joining in at this present time. :)
 
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Eric S said:
Speaking of florist review.

If it wasn't for flowerchat I don't think we would have been in the magazine ever!!!

$100.00 is nothing. Come on guys!!
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Thanks for the reminder on that part of it! I think that goes for lots of us here on the magazine articles and tidbits.

Yet another thing that is good for business from FC? I got told by the employee of one of the national brands a few weeks ago that Dragonfly Flowers is known throughout Canada. How could that be when we don't belong to any big wire service directories? Why would florists even discuss it with them? I can't think of any other reason we would be "known throughout Canada" except due to FC.

If that is a factor in our increased FSN and florist call in orders, then you could say that it's an absolutely tangible benefit to membership that you can go to the bank on.
 
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With all due respect for everyones questions, I just don't understand the hesitation. $100.00 is just not that much money to maintain connections with florist all over the country.
How many post have there been recently from shop owners thinking of closing, but needing to bounce the idea off of us...it was certainly worth it to them. It also provided information for others on the cusp. It also gives shops that think they are doing ok, a little bounce. Let's see laying on the psychiatrist couch is how much?????

I talk with shops all over everyday, and in conversation tell them about FC and it's benefits. There are lots of them that want to get out of WS's but don't know how, or what effect it will have on them. I always recommend that they join FC to get those answers and support. FC has real tangible benefits to a shop owner.

A reminder for those that didn't read this, per Ryan's notice: Jan12th (old) FREE accounts will have reduced accessibility. Jan 31st last day for FREE access to FlowerChat.Com
 
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Ryan:
I am not throwing stones, and I appreciate the time you have spent answering/following up to various posts in this thread today.

With the change from "free" to "paid" membership in FC, I feel that you have created a new business enterprise -- at the very least, a new business model.

Your terms of service or terms of use DO NOT clearly or unclearly, in any way, state the ownership of the content of the "free" FC board....or the agreement of the members to give you explicit use of the content of their posts for your own personal persent and future gain. It is intellectual property. We created it. You did not. We disagree on this one. Moving forward, you are laying claim to something that really does not belong to you.

You do have the right to create a new enterprise at any time and any way you want. No-one is stopping you. Just don't assume that you have the right of ownership to things that you did not create.

We also have the right, as potential paying members......investors (I know, you don't like that word), to ask what we get for our money.

Your answers have been, finally, blunt................if we pay, we get continued access to FC...............and some possible newly hosted articles added for our benefit.
If we don't pay, no access after 1-31-10. All of this announced with very little notice (Even my credit card company is required to give me adequate notice of chages.)

Part of our subscription will be used to fund your future endeavors. If we choose to join in those endeavors, we will have to pay more.

I think I got it now..................thanks for the clarifications............good luck..........no need to reply.....
 
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Paula... that may be true, however, in my experience (insurance and the like) the monthly payment plan works out to be more than a lump sum payment. Like it or not that's the way it is here.

V
 
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